Ice Cream Mafia - Night 1 (13/14)

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#19

I want to bring the most emphasis to this. I think it’s very important for the VTs to remember to not make themselves blatant VTs in the eyes of the mafia.

The Cop will never be blatant VT - the only way for that to happen is if they lie about their peeks, which risks griefing their team hard. So like, if you are VT, and you hint about peeking a player vanilla, and then you push them - you are outing as VT, because if you were the real cop, you’d know that player is peeked town.

So even if you didn’t rand the cop, that doesn’t mean you get to just not think about the cop and play a selfish VT game. Please be mindful of what your team needs of you! Please don’t play this as a Mountaious, it’s not!

the mafia will be monitoring the thread every day after N1 to scan for the cop. they will dedicate a lot of effort into cop hunting. please think about it very carefully. everyone - cop and VT. even though we are the “good guys”, uninformed majority, in a setup like this, optimal play requires us to be speaky and deny information to our opponents, as if we were mafia. of course dont go too hard on that too please, FPSing is almost always griefing your team. lies being pushed too far usually griefs your team. just a bit of misdirection in moderation is what’s required

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#20

Suspicious!

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#21

Using Strawberry is literally useless IMO. You’re never going to get anything out of it when your “opponent” is “the collective trust that town has on the promise that they are about to make Today”. Mafia can’t even do anything about it.

I proposed this idea at the signups thread, and I still think we should do this.

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#22

yeah i think we do that but no strawberries, strawberry pick is a death pick

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#23

Hm… Hey, I have a selfish solution to this issue.
Do you think I should reveal what my solution is?
(Note: “I” myself think this is a bad idea.)

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#24

What if mafia use anti-claim and strongman the taste tester “sucesfully”?
(disregarsing how impossible this sounds.)

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#25

[quote=“Zone_Q11, post:21, topic:11027, full:true”]
Using Strawberry is literally useless IMO. You’re never going to get anything out of it when your “opponent” is “the collective trust that town has on the promise that they are about to make Today”. Mafia can’t even do anything about it.

Willing to give Zone a very slim townlean here and it’s something I agree with too.

I have a further suggestion as well. Who wants to be checked tonight?

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#26

if its selfish i dont see it being good. remember mafia has both anti claim and strongman. people pushing lies too far is also … i hate it personally. im not sure what else you could be thinking of

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#27

tutuu seems towny

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#28

Is this pl going to actually follow plans or nah? I’ll follow the consensus plan if everybody else participates too. But if people aren’t going to listen then why bother?

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#29

not sure wym? if they waste both on VTs? it can happen yeah anything can happen if thats what u mean. i just think its risky to do hypo claims. on FoL. we havent done it before. ive never seen us do it. i think we might mess up. but i dunno. if u guys want we could try

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#30

im down to be there and not square

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#31

but i was thinking the same thing fr

like literally the whole nobody do anything plan LOL

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#32

All things considered, I would’ve been unambivalently fond of expressing direction for the Strawberry option ahead of time. Without expressing a wilfulness to skew votes majorly, although it’s perhaps the only way for evil to accidentally hit a protected player without completely uncoordinating in public, it’d also provide a threat to not be checked early on which means the Neapolitan mightn’t be wasted on polarising slots too soon.

For the most part, however, this is a moot point as a majority of the game will be vanilla led. Evils would never openly claim to choose vanilla ahead of time if they were at risk of being checked, and attempting to wrangle everybody’s actions — whilst perhaps optimal — will only lead to dissent and ruin, as evils either continue to protest and so they are executed in turn without the night check at all, or the coordinator themselves or just the players themselves lock in Chocolate selections readily to save themselves. The worst case scenario would be Mafia killing and nullifying the Neapolitan in one fell swoop immediately tonight, before claiming it themselves in F5 or so.

The mechanically optimal outcome would include having one player go Chocolate, and then being checked the following night every time, then. Tutuu’s convinced me, donezo.

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#33

Sounds villagery.

Sounds wolfy.

Kind of nullish as a result but I’ll give it the slimmest of wolfleans for the latter sentence.

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#34

Sure. You have me curious.

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#35

eating ice cream rn

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#36

mehhhhhh i lowkey found this simply villagery

not wanting to do things because of being ignored is villager simulator

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#37

Ice Creams in general probably wish to become Chocolate in order to vote whom to protect, right? Rather than asking who wants to get checked tonight, I think it’s easier to ask who are willing to remain as Vanilla instead. After all, “wanting to get checked” doesn’t necessarily guarantee a check.

(How smart could the Mafia possibly be…?) Hm… The idea I had in mind is an information hazard, so I guess I will keep it as a last-resort nuclear button. (I… don’t like where this is going.)

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#38

even following my mafia roles I’ve got chocolate vanilla some chocolate flakes but no strawberry, towniest town of them all

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