Flipless Purgatory - Town Victory!

soweli is just consistently towny all around, if they’re mafia it’s like a 15% chance to me and I’ll have good time to reconsider with judgement chat

Soweli is not villagery7 in the slightest and is the final wolf 100%. I’m certain of that much.

Look how Soweli acted towards my slot and how buddy-buddy they were with Mittens. Also, Mittens talked of clearing people that were still alive, which is what first set off alarm bells in my head because that’s not possible to do when you don’t know exactly who the wolves are. Also, Soweli helped a wolf get into Heaven while I was against doing so and a wolf wanted me sent to Hell. If both of those combined aren’t an indication that someone is a villager, nothing is.

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Heaven Phase 3 Final Votecount

Chomps (2): soweli, Leafia

Not Voting (2): Chomps, childe

Chomps has been sent to Heaven.

Rest Phase 3 has begun.

If all remaining players were to vote for skip, then we will immediately proceed to Hell Phase 4.

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@childe
@Leafia
@soweli

Once again, apologies for the delay.


Hell Phase 4 starts now, and ends at 2025-04-11T20:00:00Z.

With 3 players present, majority requires 2 votes.

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Let’s send the obvious wolf into Hell and end the game with a town win. VOTE: Soweli

I’d also be fine with being sent to Hell myself so the ones in Heaven can send Soweli to Hell. I will not let myself have any chance of being missent on Judgement Day.

aaiiieee i do lean soweli as well considering i don’t see leafia with meme/mittens as much as i do with soweli

but i dont want to hammer lets talk
are votes locked?

rrrreeally sleepy ping me when thread comes to life

No idea. Talking is good too.

As nowhere was stated that votes could be locked under any circumstance in this game, votes are not locked on any phase, let alone this phase.

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okay damn sorry :broken_heart::broken_heart:

do you like waffles

Yup. I love chocolate chip waffles especially. Why do you ask?

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Heading out for now too. :sleepingleafeon:

do not hammer SMH
VOTE: Leafia

I don’t have the time right now but the crux of the argument is that Leafia has utterly failed to show why any of the things she supposed were spew were (replace “impossible” with “unlikely” and it still holds, but Leafia is giving herself high standards in that she is lock clear so I’ll pick the easy fight and meet her there)

  1. Impossible for mafia to come up with (bussing randomly towards EoD once wagons are already set is one of the most classic techniques, and while we’re here it’s very easy to put into practice well & gets you the towncred, having multiple wolves competing but mostly in jest, like come on Leafia was not seriously arguing Mittens was a wolf, just that they should not go to heaven right then, though Mittens is very rarely even the wolf there but Leafia can’t acknowledge that because she’s putting me paired with mittens)
  2. Impossible for mafia to want to do (This is not a unpredictable gamestate, despite it being flipless we have general information, and Leafia could very well have set this up.
    OR
  3. Impossible for the mafia to pull off convincingly. It’s literal bussing, freest play in the book.

I do want to go back to an earlier Leafia argument, because I think it’s even weaker than the bussing stuff. Leafia argued that as wolf, she would not vote herself and instead would want to stay here. It is worth noting that Leafia omitted that she is not very motivated, which is a really weird thing to lie about, and as such she would be less useful. Furthermore, her ability to get into heaven later on is depreciating, while Mittens (again meeting Leafia where she’s at since she thinks this is a possibility, not entirely sure on how leafia heaven2 would go if it was meme but probably better). But also just quite blatantly
Mafia needs to get into heaven. One mafia had already died, which means there’s no margin for error. Of course Leafia’s going to try to push herself into heaven. Pushing meme would’ve been inconsistent with her earlier posts, and by the time EoD rolled around he was a sure shot so no intervention was required. As town, my goal has always been to find townies and get them into heaven, hence why I didn’t want to let Leafia in during heaven 1 and that worked. I admit that I lapsed in judgement heaven 2, but Leafia made no effort to find town.

The counterargument is “oh well if Leafia were town, from her perspective she would be town & thus a good candidate” but she made no effort beyond intimidation to get people to vote for her. It seems like its utility was purely a combination of being brought up later, and a good way to avoid actually providing opinions on anybody.

All this is utter bull and you know it. It’s up to you now whether you want the game to end now with a town victory from sending Soweli to Hell or for the game to go into Judgement phase by sending me to Hell Childe. I have faith that those in Heaven will correctly send Soweli to Hell after all.

The most telling part is that if you were so sure I was a wolf, you wouldn’t care how quick Childe hammered.

You just TMIed me town by caring about that. You don’t want him to hammer because if he does, you won’t have as much time building a good wolfcase on him.

“You are so sure im a wolf you tmied me town” hmmyes (rephrase pls)