30001st poster gets a cookie (cookie thread (Part 7))

thoughts on fountain by marcel duchamp?

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Art is labour, and most of the art done for industry thatā€™s being replaced with AI is not deep human expression but, like, uninteresting corporate art. Done for work. I make and sell art, itā€™s fun enough, but itā€™s not more fun to me than, like, chemistry. Itā€™s entirely possible for somebody to put their heart and soul into corporate art, of course, and love it and make it meaningful, but it was also plenty possible to do that with handmade clothing, doesnā€™t mean the automatic loom wasnā€™t a good thing

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Art industry for the most part (I donā€™t think art jobs are more Beautiful and Fun and Valuable than other jobs, the art industry is extremely exploitative)

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itā€™s art

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not sure how ai devalues it then if a literal urinal is passing your bar

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Oh ok
I was thinking that you meant that art as a whole is like, useless and not ever worthwhile

But Iā€™m also not super big on the soul of visual art as a sacred thing as a lot of people online are. Idk. Itā€™s a thing I can do. Itā€™s a hobby. Itā€™s like cooking or weaving or whatever. Itā€™s just a thing that people can do, itā€™s not the meaning of life

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So many people build their entire identity around being Artists and Creative and believe that making Art is what gives them value and worth and humanity. I odnā€™t think thatā€™s true.

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ofc you hate modern art

i am gods strongest modern art defender

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Not what heā€™s saying

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i donā€™t hate modern art i just donā€™t get where your bar of devaluing is

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Eh

I mean obviously itā€™s not absolute?
But I feel like. It is true for many people

A lot of people like art a lot, and doing things that you like can give your life meaning/value/humanity. But art isnā€™t exceptional. Doing chemistry gives my life meaning/value/humanity

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Just because one person derives value from it doesnā€™t make it the meaning of life for everyone, is what I mean, and it is ok if some people donā€™t care about it so much and would like it to be automated

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Like you dont always not have meaning if you donā€™t create art or whatever but you also donā€™t not always get meaning from creating art. Meaning is a person to person thing I thought we established this

Yea I figured you were attacking the idea of it being absolute

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Me when

the entire point of art to me is to invoke an emotion and try to dig a little into what the artist was attempting express/portray through the art

i canā€™t do the second part with what a machine makes.

i am poorly explaining myself arenā€™t i.

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Right but Iā€™m saying that art is not universally important, that itā€™s not uniquely important, that you shold not have a superiority complex ove rother people because you are an Artist

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