'80s Wild Overhaul FM - TOWN VICTORY

Yeah I had to search for it.

kind of looked through a couple of posts of Cream scumgame and idk I’m getting cold feet
it was over a year ago, though, so it’s not that reliable of a comparison but idk some of her posts make me waver

I know the feeling honestly.

let’s look at this again

obscurity - Still town, another mafia KP doesn’t make sense
Leafia - Town from lol’s check
lol - Town, otherwise, where did the NK go?
Gyrlander - Town from beancat spew

Zorvo - Slightly less confirmed but I think this slot is self-resolving (early protective claim is towny)
Lissi - Role reveal role is kinda ehh. Think this might conversely be town if Cream flips w?
Glass - Has been solvy. Was impressed with one of her posts (beancat commenting on people and people commenting on beancat).

Marluna - Went through ISO. Looks unpartnered with beancat. Claim checks out with previous softs (will only be useful if they survive)

Magnus - Not sure if I will finish ISO. From what I’ve seen so far, it’s decently towny?
Cream - idk where I would go if this isn’t a hit

Nah I still find them aligned.

Like I think it can go both ways

How quiet the thread is being is making me a bit more sure in thinking that CCream isn’t a hit honestly. It’s like no one cares if Cream gets executed or not,not even the wolves. You’d expect a bit more resistance if Cream was a hit honestly. Yet no one has really tried to defend her.

Mafia Kill isn’t mandatory

Was kind of skimming through Magnus’ ISO to jog my memory and found this.
It’s probably a coincidence + me being prone to bias and tinfoils but this reminds me of Cream talking about who to target to prevent redirect and she was thinking about me vs. obscurity but decided on obscurity because she wasn’t sure whether or not I would act.

yeah, I can’t really tell tbh

The only question I have about that is why didn’t she consider targeting lol?

It really could at this point.

Going to call it a night now too. Not sure if I’ll be around for EoD or not and good night. :sleepingleafeon:

would mafia holster just to fake a NK?
I mean, I could see it I guess

but the complexity of the role makes me think it’s more likely to be real + I got shot before so I kind of buy it
who would lol’s hypothetical scumbuddy even be? Leafia?

I feel like this game is either too easy or too hard
can’t tell which one it is

going to sleep early byeeeeee

I think it’s more like if lol is town it was on them but if they are mafia then mafia probably holstered for lol to make that play.

@obscurity
If Cream flips wolf I’d shoot Lissi.
If Cream flips town I’d shoot Magnus but it’s completely up to you on that one.

Random thought before I go back to doing my IRL stuff –

Marluna said she wasn’t voteless, and that it was faked.

Beancat seems to believe that Marluna truly is voteless… TBH doesn’t feel super aligned.

Honestly don’t think it’s Marluna here, despite what I said about poor D3 feeling

I think reasons for Marluna being town outweight reasons for Marluna being mafia.

Like… Marluna was the first person to call out beancat’s incorrect vote on Gyrlander.

I still don’t think mafia hard defend mafia really often, especially not in beancat’s position.

There’s also another reason why mafia hard defend town way more often than hard defending mafia. It’s much easier to be really defensive and certain about the truth, rather than be defensive and certain about some outright lie that you are concocting. I frankly don’t think beancat’s grasp of the thread and skill is at the level where he can confidently manufacture outright lies about wolf!Marluna definitely being town and pulling all these reasons for wolf!Marluna being town from a cursory read. I think he did what mafia commonly do when hard defending someone: they are hard defending town, and it’s so easy for them because they know the person is town, so it makes it easy for them to hard defend the person. It also gives them townie points for seeming to be solving.

Even if he’s hard defending mafia there on D2, I think he would have at least put more care into doing so. Like… hard defending a teammate can be a bit scary since you know that you’re spewing lies. I think he would have at least been more cautious and double checked his work rather than just half-assing the read, and getting caught redhanded in so many errors.

I think there were so many inconsistencies in his read precisely because he had TMI that Marluna was town, and he was complacent in truly checking the thread information before making the read.

TBH looking at it… not 100% sure on Zorvo being mafia anymore … like looking at that section of the thread again, it seemed like it was almost a natural progression for beancat, and it wasn’t just some opportunistic scum distancing. IDK man.

I still do think beancat mixing up Leafia and Lissi points to the two being the same alignment.

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There’s also possibility that if lol is mafia, he didn’t holster and I was shot (not that I would know it)