'80s Wild Overhaul FM - TOWN VICTORY

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#721

most of these are live reactions, with exceptions (e.g. a few posts are out of order)

suspicious
he kinda assumes that it’s an SK and/or other high-value target for mafia
rather than jester or exe as magnus had pointed out just before this post

(in terms of what an actual neutral could be i kinda feel like it’d be a GA, this is entirely because mafia wouldn’t have to eliminate a town GA to win. probably stupid though)

wow this… more assuming its an SK i guess?

please stop softing in your first post
(this is directed to everyone on the site)

no please i beg of you mech discussion ruins games :sob:
(well, maybe not ruins but it destroys a lot of social potential so)

…fair,
but you also seem experienced enough to have an idea of how to do that
so

(ok nvm)

let’s be real
somebody has the “negative utility” or “basically VT” role that appears in every role madness setup

the next 200-ish posts are absolutely useless to me and/or marluna repeating “i have the negative utility / basically VT role” which is exactly what i predicted (and also useless mechtalk and we should stopt alking about it)

PLEASE STOP CLAIMING AAAAA

this is sort of a stupid read but
town is more likely to defend their original thoughts (judging by people in general) rather than backtrack on it, and mafia are less likely to because they don’t want to seem sus
:mooseeyebrowsmoker:

kinda a dumb thought that never goes anywhere too, but
is marluna repeatedly claiming that because they want to derail the thread?
idk
sorta feels like it
they’re just saying “I’M VT I’M VT I’M VT I’M VT” so

i both dislike and like this vote
on the one hand, it exudes “LYNCH SOMEBODY DON’T LEAVE ANY VOTE BEHIND”
on the other hand, it exudes “LET’S TURBO SOMEBODY FOR MY WINCONDITION”

normally i’d say that this is townie from gorta, since if he was mafia he’d be informed about this
but 3 and 4 man mafia chats tend to be not as active so like
(also he is informed about it because he read the relevant posts so it doesn’t matter anyways)

i second this movement

i do not second this movement
i think that excessive mechtalk is bad, but mechtalk itself is not

real jester hours

i do too
mostly cuz i can actually read stuff

speaking of reading stuff i am not reading the 200 posts after this
good day to you all

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#722

after the last quoted post that is

#723

you know I retract the jester idea
this was reviewed by geyde and osie and is hosted by zone

#724

I didn’t say they have to be I just said they are likely part of the wolf team and if they are it clears Glass for me.

#725

Lol nice!

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#726

I think it was more like they were wondering why there was a vote on Eliza.

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#727

I thought you were the one who likes Mech talk?

Eh perhaps I am wrong.

#728

that’s wazza
personally i suck at social
and this is a new thing for me tbh
but

#729

I was gonna say.
Pretty sure you like some Mech talk from previous games you played in

#730

yeah idk
that’s mostly lategame tho
which is when its more relevant

#731

early mechtalk does nothing for the town and benefits only the mafia

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#732

If I had to organize my reads off the most recent conversation about Glass’s disappearance, I think it would be like this:

Leafia
~
Marluna
~
lol, Zorvo

Put in the overall readlist, it’d be:

Glass, Cream, Leafia
~
Lemon, Marluna
~
lol, Zorvo

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Leafia moves up because I think she has been a bastion of reason, and also the only other one here who is seeing what I’m seeing and willing to say it. She has also clarified about the Glass and Marluna vote thing, and I think it does make enough sense.

Marluna moves down from a townlean, because I’m not quite sure what to make of her sidelining during the disagreement. Like, she says “I agree with Zorvo,” clarifies that she only agrees about “lol is the best exe here,” but also doesn’t offer a single opinion about Zorvo’s theory and follow-up argument which took up 90% of the thread content and caused such a divisive disagreement and many votes between everyone (or at least me and Zorvo, mainly, and it’s continued from this morning to the present, which is like, a full 12 hours). I just don’t know if this kind of behavior makes sense if she was W/W with either Zorvo or lol (and definitely not with both).

I’ve already explained my read on Zorvo multiple times, but to sum it up: it’s a lot of inconsistency and hesitance to read people positively (which personally I think comes more from wolves, who would find it harder to maneuver if they gave strong townreads to others). Also, he changed his read to me in the end, so now it seems more likely that he didn’t truly believe in his wolf!lol theory that much…? IDK. I disagree with his read on me also, and only Marluna seems to be willing to vouch that this is the usual Zorvo, but she hasn’t offered any detailed meta to date. Leafia thinks this is too illogical for town!Zorvo, so conflicting opinions there.

I think all of his subsequent actions do make me feel more confident in my vote, but lol’s actions make me question my choice a bit.

Lol’s refusal to see Zorvo’s read as what it was (a combo of his initial Leafia ‘vibe read’ + Zorvo’s theory that lol muted Glass) is ?? to me. He insists it’s purely an OMGUS, or something to do with Marluna, idk, and then goes right to calling my reaction extreme and voting me like he didn’t see any of the theory stuff I was pointing out.

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I am trying to think about whether Lol/Zorvo is possible. I remember someone said earlier that Zorvo likes bussing, and also Zorvo choosing to switch votes to me in the end, off lol, despite his theory that he championed for half the day, does seem like it could come from mafia who was planning on bussing initially but decided it was better at this point to switch to someone more convenient. And then lol followed his vote, which I guess is kinda ?? if they’re scumbuddies.

But also, I was going to say something about this that pointed to non-W/W but I forgot while I was writing ^^;; Let me come back to this later.

#733

I thought this post made Marluna townier, since it sounded like she hadn’t realized that it looked like rolefishing until then. I feel like mafia would be a bit more aware about asking questions about roles, right?

#734

I think the 200 posts after that are kinda important, at least in terms of understanding the current gamestate.

I think you should at least try to skim them.

#735

yes i think it makes em townie

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#736

when i skim posts are useless for me

#737

Then I think you should read them and think about them in depth.

#738

no

#739

This is not coming back to me lmao

I’m going to give it 10 minutes before I go to sleep so hopefully I can set an alarm and wake up for EOD tomorrow! Because 8 am is so early… fair warning now, I’ll probably end up sleeping through EOD and likely won’t be here.

#740

why is eod tommorow