'80s Wild Overhaul FM - TOWN VICTORY

[Glass]

@lol

since you scumlean both of us, wouldn’t this mean your scumlean on lemon is more reliable? seems like backwards logic to me

No. Its like luna saying she would prefer voting me rather than magnus. Like take if you def have to kill someone to escpae. would you rather kill a stranger or someone who you know?

@Lemonfairy

I do not understand why people - I think it was Lissi and Glass - would decide not to vote someone because they know them better
that is just bias for people you’re more familiar with and familiarity is NAI

Yes indeed. Familiarity is NAI but i have both of you at the same amount of sus
Its not like i can vote you both, only one so i had to choose based on one criteria and i chose familiarity

@Lissi

Which parts do you disagree with?

The blitz part becuase i dont really think entrances can be used to define the faction of a person. I honestly think it depends on their current mood
Magnus part. I felt like she was implying he was scumlean when i had him as townlean then. so i was diagreeing with that part too

@Zorvo

Would she have even bothered voting though?

I just wanted to put it out there on who i would be comfortable with voting at that time if i was still there…

@lol

its pretty obvious glass didnt leave herself and someone activated their ability

if you are aware you would leave the thread you would probably, yknow, say something about it

I apologize. I honeslt would have on D2 but i thought claiming my role half way through D1 was a bad idea. Like lissi said i wanted to get out my thoughts at that point hence why the whole readlist and vote

Just what i had to say to some posts on D1

[Glass]

Aaaanndd… if what obsc said is true,
I could stop myself from making this

[Glass]

@Host_Account_5

In the event that the sequence of [No Exe → No Death → No Exe] is followed, a random Town will be executed instead.

And maybe mafia didnt do an nk cuz of this?
But i dont see this helping them tbh
Why choose this when they can kill town faster and maybe win easier while doing a faction kill?

[lol]

@Glass

No. Its like luna saying she would prefer voting me rather than magnus. Like take if you def have to kill someone to escpae. would you rather kill a stranger or someone who you know?

imagine you are in zombie scenario
you think your friend is suddenly acting weird, and theres also this stranger you dont know who is weird
who would you feel more confident saying was bitten by a zombie?

[Glass]

Mhm. That seems entirely possible

[lol]

i was convinced into a not townreading as hard by zorvo and leafia herself
and weird nightkill+ clears puts suspicion on one of the towny players

[lol]

@Zorvo

Why do you trust them?

their role is a town one imo also postcount

[Lemonfairy]

@Lissi

you pointedly didn’t answer any of my questions yesterday

what questions?
I also just wasn’t here/didn’t read

[Marluna]

@lol

postcount

I think it’s weird to townread someone based on this.

[Lemonfairy]

@Glass

Yes indeed. Familiarity is NAI but i have both of you at the same amount of sus
Its not like i can vote you both, only one so i had to choose based on one criteria and i chose familiarity

just don’t use a criteria
vote one and push both

I also just kind of parked on lol for most of D1 though
do you still scumread us both?

[Lemonfairy]

it’s kinda valid but like most tells, you can’t just only look at it in isolation

[Leafia]

She should’ve alerted. Although her death is really unexpected so I can understand why she didn’t.

Possible vig shot.

@obscurity

Do mafia not have a kill this game or was it stopped?

I killed Eliza. I didn’t get to read up on the game much and had to use my role so I picked the top wagon

I refuse to believe that you didn’t have a choice whether or not you shot and maf kill isn’t mandatory. They might’ve holstered.

@lol

Marluna took vote from me btw so i get to do nothing today

Actually, he didn’t do it. As you know from the offer you recieved, it was me that you gave your vote to when you accepted the offer. My ability is only two shot though and I only have your vote for today.

@Magnus

There’s a vote thief in this game? Why are there so many cool and interesting roles in the script?

Nope. That’s the price I mentioned yesterday. Lol voluntarily gave me his vote in return for a BPV.

@Lemonfairy

also, I was attacked last night
did anyone else get attacked?

You were?

@Marluna

Question 1:
Do people believe obscurity’s claim

I do.

@Marluna

Unless lemon/obscurity are both wolves. (and lemon lieing about being attacked)

I will just mention this possibility.

Not really worthbthinking about for now. Obscurity/Lemon probably v/v.

@Lemonfairy

doesn’t really make sense for me to lie about it as either alignment

Agreed.

@Magnus

If we agree that Lemon’s a strange nighkill, surely they’d be a strange heal target. So maybe the Mafia BPV-vigi hypothesis is correct.

It’s possible.

@Marluna

Also we cannot exclude the possibility of obscurity being 3p.

Hmmm, true. I forgot about the possibility of neutrals.

@Zorvo

The fact Glass was attacked Lissi probably outed wolf.

Lissi isn’t outed wolf.

@Gyrlander

I can hardly believe there are more roles with BPV. wtf

I can. Lemon isn’t groupscum at least. Neither is obscurity.

@Zorvo

Yeah Um how would you know mafia has a vigilante for BPV and a detector?
VOTE: Marluna

This is being logical. VOTE: Marluna

@Gyrlander

So Marluna talks about my “BPV-detector theory” when I have never talked about a BPV-detector. Marluna introduces that theory suggesting that it’s mine. And then, when I keep talking as if there isn’t a BPV-detector Marluna once again uses the BPV-detector to explain that more BPVs are to be expected.

To be honest, it may be a scum slip.

That’s what I’m thinking too. A scumslip.

@Zorvo

Yeah I think it is tbh and they are trying to say they are talking about the vigilante.

@Lissi
You want to defend your buddy here?

I highly doubt Lissi is a wolf here. Ironically, this is more how T!Zorvo plays.

@Zorvo

Last 2 games I played, lies like this was always mafia so I’m not letting Marluna live or live long after this.

Not after my last couple games

I definitely agree that Marluna should be thevexecution for today.

@Gyrlander

I just didn’t link the BPV-detector to the BPV-vigi, I thought you were talking about something completely different and hence my confusion.

He obviously was talking about something different.

@Zorvo

Like this is always a wolf, town never does this.

Uses a different role name for an already known role that wasn’t that role name and then lies about why the used it. (Shorter when it was not.)

Agreed 100%

@Marluna

Shut up.

It detects if someone has a BPV first, and if it doesn’t it doesn’t kill.

So It’s more a BPV detector than a BPV vig.

No it isn’t.

@Gyrlander

I’d have left Marluna to defend themselves but I’m going to leave soon so I’ll say that it seems plausible to me that they changed the name… and that’s it. It makes sense.

Zorvo, read this. Gyrlander is the one defending Marluna. Not sure what to think of it yet but it isn’t a good look for Gyrlander either way.

@Marluna

Also everyone calls the paranoid gun owner as veteran, do you think they are scum too?

And both me and Lemon called the BPV-smith diffently, do you think the BPV-smith is Scum for not using the full name?

Because that’s the name of the role in ToS and it is shorter.

@Glass

So to clarify
It was my active which I voluntarily used D1

Still think that lol is the best execution Zorvo? Glass always town here for admitting this though.

@lol

i have no power today but id probably say dont kill marluna i trust them

So glad I have your vote now. There’s no way Marluna is town and makes that slip. Or at least a very low chance. I’d say no way is lol/Gyrlamnder ever w/w here as well. Especially if Marluna flips wolf. No way two of Marluna’s wolfbuddies defend him here. One at most.

@lol

but if i had to guess now a mafia in leafia/magnus is what i expect

And yet you gave me your vote voluntarily. After all, I did mention I was going to sell you a bov for a price. A price that was mentioned in the deal you received from the host.

@Glass

Like take if you def have to kill someone to escpae. would you rather kill a stranger or someone who you know?

Depends on how much I liked the person I knew.

[lol]

@Leafia

Actually, he didn’t do it. As you know from the offer you recieved, it was me that you gave your vote to when you accepted the offer. My ability is only two shot though and I only have your vote for today.

oh then ur town then

[Leafia]

@Leafia

sell you a bov

sell you a bpv

[lol]

@Leafia

And yet you gave me your vote voluntarily. After all, I did mention I was going to sell you a bov for a price. A price that was mentioned in the deal you received from the host.

i thought it was marluna tbh

[lol]

also probably a dumb idea saying that ur giving me a bpv now im a free kill lol

[Leafia]

Ah. Why’d you think it was Marluna?

[lol]

cause marluna said they had no vote yesterday and today they have one suddenly

[Leafia]

I had to clear up the misconception about there being a vote thief somehow because you made it sound like someone had stolen your vote.

[Leafia]

They do?