A Certain Scientific Railgun Mafia - Game Over: Rainbow's End [Mafia Victory]

[Zone_Q11]

@nightingale

if theres a role thats giving out potentially powerful items they absolutely should not claim lol
and we shouldn’t have a massclaim just to sort this out

We already have Kiiruma who’s an Inventor. If the other Inventor is town, then I’d expect them to have claimed a long time ago.

@nightingale

because I think whether it’s a town role or a wolf role won’t help us solve any of our alignments, at least not with the information we have so far

if its a town role then i actually got the message regardless of alignment
if its a wolf role then i still got the message if im town or wolfchat told me to fake the message if im wolf

Eh… debateable. Depending on how we perceive this “False Inventor” it may be possible to have them claim when they are about to die. In the name of self-pres and all.
…though, I don’t have any intentions of letting them live at all. Even if they claim.

@eevee

You want me to write whole description of it too?
But like… you can read it yourself, can’t you?

Not really. I can’t read your mind, so I don’t know what your reads are. You’re really not giving me anything at all, are you? Aside from your wish to CFD at EOD1, that is.

@JakeTheWolfie

Effectively, I received a message which said that WWA should Die, and whoever sent it has important info on them, and that I’d get another one later

Wow, they told you all that and an incriminating evidence against me? I really want to kill this Messenger now.

[nightingale]

@nightingale

hippo asked for a case on himself earlier
this isnt a case meant to be convincing/persuasive but its my thoughts
i dont have the benefit of meta with him and even with that i think he could definitely be a villager still

hippo feels very output-oriented-- players like kii, me, atlas, eli, and windy have been reaching out somewhat to other people and gravitating towards in terms of question asking/solving
hippo feels to me more just like reads reads reads
additionally, I dont really understand where his reads are coming from (and also how he knows jake was in the hood? although i could just be stupid here)-- every once in a while he comes in hard with a confident push on someone I think is a villager
Individually, I think the way he treated jake with kiddie gloves was how a wolf would do it to a villa slot with a reputation like jake has
defending eli out of the gate for ??? reasons (“wagon is bad”) is very easily TMI
the way he calls my reads on him tinfoil and omgus and hot takes for the sake of being hot gives me the impression that they frustrate him for some reason or another, and since I’m exactly one voice out of 14 on a player otherwise in a comfortable position I think that a wolf is situationally somewhat more likely to get defensive about my wolfread

I read most of the “lhf” slots (me/eli/jake/luku) as villagers and in those worlds hippo’s pushes line up well with wolf agenda

@Zone_Q11 my read on hippo hasn’t changed that much from here
strike the first 3 lines of the second paragraph bc hippo pointed out they’re wrong and replace it with a vague unease about hippo’s general style of engagement this game that I can’t articulate

add onto this hippo’s frankly bizzare mechanical suggestions that he’s made, like rolefishing eevee’s target more and trying to use the message to set up a push on whoever
it’s not like, objectively wolfy, but another block to me getting into his head on top of them being actions that make sense as wolf

also slight undercurrent of frustration at the entire town that I think could plausibly come from anxiety at having to keep up appearances

[JakeTheWolfie]

@Zone_Q11

Wow, they told you all that and an incriminating evidence against me? I really want to kill this Messenger now.

No, not against you, against whoever WWA is.

Are you WWA? Have you ever been referred to as WWA? No? Then it’s not about you.

[eevee]

@Zone_Q11

@eevee

You want me to write whole description of it too?
But like… you can read it yourself, can’t you?

Not really. I can’t read your mind, so I don’t know what your reads are. You’re really not giving me anything at all , are you? Aside from your wish to CFD at EOD1, that is.

I was half serious, with me saying that you can read it yourself.

Like… whole start of day 2 was discussion about this being neighborhood kill etc.
And while I know you want to focus on other stuff, for me it’s important to explain this topic down to the last drop first, as… noone else is really going to do it.

So yeah, you do have mostly day 1 for now.

[Zone_Q11]

@JakeTheWolfie

@Zone_Q11

Wow, they told you all that and an incriminating evidence against me? I really want to kill this Messenger now.

No, not against you, against whoever WWA is.

Are you WWA? Have you ever been referred to as WWA? No? Then it’s not about you.

@JakeTheWolfie

@Zone_Q11

In other words, you have not received it yet?
Are you confirming to have a message of similar nature to nightingale?

The message I received sounded like there was incriminating evidence on you, that would be revealed at a later date

Contradiction.

[JakeTheWolfie]

@JakeTheWolfie

I recieved a cryptic message about needing someone dead last night. Dunno what that was about.

@JakeTheWolfie

I can’t say for sure. The name appears Initialized. I think I could figure it out though.

@JakeTheWolfie

WWA (Windward Away?)

@Zone_Q11

[Zone_Q11]

@nightingale

hippo asked for a case on himself earlier
this isnt a case meant to be convincing/persuasive but its my thoughts
i dont have the benefit of meta with him and even with that i think he could definitely be a villager still

hippo feels very output-oriented-- players like kii, me, atlas, eli, and windy have been reaching out somewhat to other people and gravitating towards in terms of question asking/solving
hippo feels to me more just like reads reads reads
additionally, I dont really understand where his reads are coming from (and also how he knows jake was in the hood? although i could just be stupid here)-- every once in a while he comes in hard with a confident push on someone I think is a villager
Individually, I think the way he treated jake with kiddie gloves was how a wolf would do it to a villa slot with a reputation like jake has
defending eli out of the gate for ??? reasons (“wagon is bad”) is very easily TMI
the way he calls my reads on him tinfoil and omgus and hot takes for the sake of being hot gives me the impression that they frustrate him for some reason or another, and since I’m exactly one voice out of 14 on a player otherwise in a comfortable position I think that a wolf is situationally somewhat more likely to get defensive about my wolfread

I read most of the “lhf” slots (me/eli/jake/luku) as villagers and in those worlds hippo’s pushes line up well with wolf agenda

@Hippopablompoyeetus

@nightingale

hippo feels very output-oriented-- players like kii, me, atlas, eli, and windy have been reaching out somewhat to other people and gravitating towards in terms of question asking/solving
hippo feels to me more just like reads reads reads

This bit is not true (i mean me asking u to do this is already 1 exmple of me asking questions lol) but everything else in ur wall post is not awful, thank you.

…interesting. Hippo was admitting:

• [He was not elaborating where some of his reads come from],
• [He treated Jake like how a wolf would treat a villager], and
• [He was defending Eli because “the wagon looks bad”].

@nightingale

add onto this hippo’s frankly bizzare mechanical suggestions that he’s made, like rolefishing eevee’s target more and trying to use the message to set up a push on whoever

When did this happen?

[nightingale]

his posts between #3411 and #3424

[Zone_Q11]

@eevee

I was half serious, with me saying that you can read it yourself.

Like… whole start of day 2 was discussion about this being neighborhood kill etc.
And while I know you want to focus on other stuff, for me it’s important to explain this topic down to the last drop first, as… noone else is really going to do it.

So yeah, you do have mostly day 1 for now.

I mean, I understand that you are one of the only two who can explain the neighborhood chat, but at the same time, it isn’t as if that’s the only topic at stake?
From the top of my head, the people who are heavily invested in the theory “there is exactly 1 wolf within Jake/eevee” are: Isolde, Hippo, Jake, maybe BioHazard.

@JakeTheWolfie

@JakeTheWolfie

I recieved a cryptic message about needing someone dead last night. Dunno what that was about.

@JakeTheWolfie

I can’t say for sure. The name appears Initialized. I think I could figure it out though.

@JakeTheWolfie

WWA (Windward Away?)

@Zone_Q11

Those are your posts saying that you need Windward dead.
In P#3442 specifically, you literally wrote “[…] sounded like there was incriminating evidence on you” and you were talking to ME. There was no mention of Windward whatsoever, so you are saying that the “incriminating evidence” was on ME.

[Zone_Q11]

@Zone_Q11

@nightingale

add onto this hippo’s frankly bizzare mechanical suggestions that he’s made, like rolefishing eevee’s target more and trying to use the message to set up a push on whoever

When did this happen?

@nightingale

his posts between #3411 and #3424

His curiosity at P#3411 and his response at P#3420 looks normal IMO.

I see P#3421 more as an attempt to solve the game through mech. It could be perceived as scummy, but at the same time he could’ve just taken his time to backread and find the answer himself and/or maybe ask scumchat.

[JakeTheWolfie]

I misspoke there. The posts I uoted from me show that I meant WWA, but was later confusing Nightale’s suppsed message with mine.

[Isolde]

@JakeTheWolfie

I misspoke there. The posts I uoted from me show that I meant WWA, but was later confusing Nightale’s suppsed message with mine.

Why tho?

[JakeTheWolfie]

Because I am still sick (Although getting better) so I am not playing the Highest™ Quality™ Mafia™™ that I can.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

gaming

[Isolde]

@JakeTheWolfie
What’s your thoughts on Atlas and Night?

[JakeTheWolfie]

noughts hempty

Currently eating soup

[Isolde]

@ElizaThePsycho

gaming

Hey Eli, you said Hippo was your top town yes?
What do you think about their thoughts so far?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

i don’t know i don’t remember anything that has happened in the past 400 posts
because i didn’t read it

[WindwardAway]

@JakeTheWolfie

@Zone_Q11

(Hm… That actually sounds plausible.)

@JakeTheWolfie would have to confirm this to clear your behavior though.
If he confirms, then I can see a world where you are town.
If he doesn’t confirm, then -while I can think of a world where you are town- I don’t believe it.

I did not receive a promise of receiving an item, but I did receive something else

I don’t want you to out that info
But curious to know, why did you choose to admit you were told to vote me out today instead of just complying with the request and quietly voting me out without mentioning it?

[JakeTheWolfie]

I am not good at justifying something that I’ve pre-determined to be true.