IDK what it is with Helz, but he falls under my radar even lower than Whysper does. That’s actually saying a lot, considering he’s got more posts than Whysper.
I think it’s time for me to check him out.
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If Night is w/w with the executioner/inventor then why would they pick her as the very first target of their ability? I know it provides an alibi but isn’t it likely they’d pick a town member first?
I was answering your first post, but I saw this and wanted to address it first because I’ve had something in mind that I kept bottled up.
I saw that Kiiruma gave Helz something from what Night said, and I’m wondering why? Because so far through 1500 posts I don’t know what he’s seeing?
It’s either add to the Eevee wagon.
Or possibly Jake is my other yeet of choice.
I’m trying to add more to my townlist and choke out wolves from going anywhere safe.
Gorta is wrong, Lukundo claimed motion detector and had a mix of reads on him, and lol didn’t claim anything but was consensus townread.
Nvm I should just keep reading before replying lmao
thanks for reminding me about kiiruma
yeah, I got the two mixed up
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He left a legacy townread on me if you check toward the end of my iso.
Which is why I said, people should actually have me on their radar since it would probably make sense for me to kill a consensus townread who thinks I’m town, if I’m a wolf. But very few people are scumreading me so I think at least half the wolf team is TMIing me town tbh.
I don’t agree with the entire list but it’s a personal opinion and I appreciate that you’re sharing your reads
Have a couple things I want to discuss but probably won’t do the heavy work till after I leave the office today
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I would’ve said Isolde as a possible choice from the start of my backread, because like Kiiruma said, he had a lot of fluff to start and was talking about things that was just not going anywhere with the game. This was how I found him out to be wolf the first time I caught him.
But the later the game went the more he posted his in game thought process and talked about certain things about players like certain players being “willagers” and stuff like that…which usually looks like shit but is normal for him when he’s town. So I might be leaning town but it’s the least confident townread I have.
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Honestly asking eevee for his reads is like beating a dead horse, since I’m pretty sure he’s not gonna give reads till he feels like it, even if he has them.
By the way the more I read through the game the more I see Kiiruma posting and I’m constantly thinking “This man is a damn hero” and I regret being an asshole to him during Poisonous game when he caught me correctly and I insulted him.
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I was also wondering why Kii already had a townread on Helz, because if anything it reflects better on Helz than on Kii.
I don’t think the action itself means anything either way but the way Helz handled Kiiruma asking him to confirm them as “masons” probably means they aren’t partnered, although tbf I don’t know if Helz would take the free town confirmation from Kii even as a wolf.
So you also believe there’s a wolf in the neighborhood?
oh ok, I might have missed that
it’s possible, I don’t quite know what to think about you after that one game we played together
Chances are…probably yeah.
I’m actually getting hungry
Eh, I might actually put Seth into my townreads and stop second guessing it.
- Early D1, Helz wanted conflict for content.
- P#426 Helz voted Windward for no apparent reason other than pressure.
- P#838 Helz adviced BioHazard to abstain over sheeping majority, before wondering if BioHazard could fake being a newbie in P#840.
- P#847 Helz refused to vote me after ISO’ing me. No further explanation was given.
- P#881 Helz reponded to lol, who was trying to convince BioHazard to vote me, but Helz mentioned that he thought there were a lot of V/V focus, and that we should focus on the low-posters instead.
- P#1202 Helz didn’t think Windward/eevee is V/W or W/V. He also mentioned that he was interested in Windward’s pre-flip on 112 (who is now nightingale) despite the fact that 112 was a zero-poster.
- P#1366 Helz tried to persuade eevee with reasonable arguments to not use flavor to hunt scum.
- P#1435~P#1440 short conversation with Eli. (IDK why, but this feels interesting. I have not properly evaluated the content yet.)
- P#1447 Helz is interested in Eli/Luks wagons.
- P#1650 Helz is self-aware that most people only have scum equity on him
- P#1915 Helz admits to Hippo that he hasn’t made any pushes because he didn’t have any scumreads. Though, he did want a Gorta wagon to be formed at EOD as he felt something wasn’t right with Gorta.
- P#2945 D2 Helz is still suspicious of Wind and Gorta and did not elaborate further.
- P#3031 Helz gained sudden interest on Jake/eevee.
- P#3368 Helz posted his reads. Aside from Windward/Gorta, his reads are mainstream.
- P#3405 Helz voted nightingale. He did mention in his readslist that he scumread her, but there was no buildup to this vote whatsoever.
…perhaps it is because there are other suspects to work with, but how come nobody talks much about the guy whose readlist is not that different than Atlas’? I recall Isolde saying he was worried that Atlas’ townread on Kiiruma and me are concerning, but the same concern should be applied here as well.
FWIW, Helz’s reads does seem consistent. I would like to hear more of what he thinks about eevee and Eli as well, but I think I can put him on nulltown for the time being.
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