im just watchig you slowly drive yourself insane
btw you can guarantee that my brain will be shot in the morning after this
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also windy could super reasonably be awake right now and that is a sine that i should be asleep
No, I think something else but I’m not publicly mentioning it for a reason
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Oh hi there lol
Yes, I’m awake and backreading
I guess I’m 5 hours too late to catch eevee in the thread :|
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I’m just disappointed I can’t town clear Whysper because I thought I was onto something :/ oh well
Back to the drawing board, I guess
townclear someone for threatening you
i cant think of anything funny to say after this
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Just to clarify, are you saying Eevee initiated the discussion on coordinating night actions and lol didn’t like discussing it at all? Or didn’t like the direction the discussion was going?
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(Hm… That actually sounds plausible.)
@JakeTheWolfie would have to confirm this to clear your behavior though.
If he confirms, then I can see a world where you are town.
If he doesn’t confirm, then -while I can think of a world where you are town- I don’t believe it.
For that to happen, I’d have to eval Atlas in the first place. I’ll do so now.
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Eli pushed Lukondo all day yesterday, had 0 reaction today when they flipped town, and has proceeded to start pushing Zone for fairly bad reasons - who is by far easiest person to push due to being counter wagon.
@ElizaThePsycho why havent u reevaluated or anything after lukondo flip?
- SOD1 Atlas “waited and observed”; NAI
- P#604 Atlas questioned why Jake voted Eli for pressure when there are other null slots; If W/W, then Atlas is too sensitive; Occam’s razor says to interpret this as NAI
- P#685 Atlas mentioned that top wagons (Eli, Luks, Windward) existed for bad reasons; I gave advice to make a wagon and not vote late; only the latter was given a response to; Was there a (lack of) reason to vote anyone outside the three at the time?
- P#1703 Atlas put top wagons at nullscum, with Eli being the most uncertain; …this is stupid logic, but if Eli/Atlas are W/W because w!Atlas worries too much about his scumbuddies, does this imply Wind is V?
- P#1781 Atlas thinks top wagons (Eli, Luks, Jake) are still not great but better than earlier; it does not seem like he is actively defending Eli this time
- P#2453 Atlas thinks Eli is probs town and questions my alignment. Context: Eli and I were discussing my confident townread on Isolde
Conclusion: Yes, I can see Atlas being W/W with Eli, but if this is truly the case, then Atlas would be too oversensitive about everyone’s read on Eli.
The thing that makes me uneasy about Atlas is his sudden townread on Eli. Granted, v!Eli could have read the discussion and agreed with Eli’s logic over mine, but it really feels weird if you ISO Atlas. D1 Atlas was like “everything can change; I have Eli on nullscum, and I am uncertain about this”, and D2 Atlas -when it comes to Eli specifically- was like: “Are we best friends now?” “YES WE ARE!”
I mean, just look at P#1781 & P#1782 (his stance on Eli, Luks, Jake) and then look at P#2391 & P#2401 (Atlas’ interaction with Eli). Does this look natural to anyone?
If it was Jake and eevee or Kiiruma or something about the neighborhood thing, then I can understand if some reads changed because they interacted during N1, but this mood change between Eli & Atlas came out of nowhere.
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Guys, this is a dumb question, but if Eli/Atlas are W/W,
would w!Eli have bothered to make the post where he said he forgot Atlas was in the game?
Is this AI or do you think scumbuddies can make light jokes like this?
that’s kinda why i don’t think they’re w/w
yes, it is easily fakeable for a wolf to say, but Eli in particular idk
I’ve seen him claim to forget someone is in the game multiple times before, and i believe all of those times he was town and had near-complete lack of interaction with those slots
Hm… okay. That’s it. I am locking Windward as town.
wait, why?
FTR, this lock was made before Windward’s post.
I have… immoral means which makes me believe that Windward is town.
ok lmao
I was wondering how you locked me so quickly after I’d just posted that take but it makes more sense that you saw something from earlier to locktown me from
I don’t think I’ve done anything that actually merits being locktowned but I’ll take the townread without complaints
wait… does this have something to do with the fact that i was trying to solve the redirect claim rather than claiming nexus?
Hm… very well. @Isolde, my conclusion is: Atlas/Eli has at most 1 wolf.
…by the way, 50% of the reason why you (Isolde) and Atlas are scumreading each other (in particular, why @Atlas is scumreading Isolde) is because of miscommunication.
If I say what I did to townread you, then Eli will undoubtedly continue complaining about it.
He will set me as his scumread (which is fine, since I really don’t care about his reads) and he might forget about literally everyone else in the process (which is not fine, regardless of his flip).
Oh, no. That’s actually the reason why I started doubting you are town. (Before you explained it, that is.) As for you not claiming Nexus… Well, if you’re not claiming Nexus, then it must’ve been a redirector -like role who specifically targeted me. There is no alternative FMPOV.
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pretty sure Eli already scumreads you and has been pushing you today so I don’t really see what difference this makes
well, I’ll take this opportunity to clarify that I’m definitely not a nexus, in case anyone else thought that.
I agree with you entirely, assuming you’re town and were redirected off me by some means, since nobody should be able to bus drive me (ascetic, duh)