AI Upick Mafia GAME THREAD - ENDGAME - JOAKIM WINS

[Magnus]

I’m feeling surprisingly comfortable with my vote on Eevee, if only because they still haven’t posted their thoughts on the game and they could be coasting, although I’m kinda tempted to flip Jarek first.

@Jarek

I wish I had more to say in this thread at this point in time but I really don’t and that’s annoying

Daisy chains too beautiful to complain.
So sweet, I cannot explain.
It seems so sad, but memories make me so glad.
Just take out ones that seem bad.

Fake it until you make it. I guess I’m apprehensive of Jarek for the same reasons I was bothered by Zorvo? I know they’re capable of more than this, as either alignment (source from UFO), so I’m not sure why they’re also this passive. Look:

@Jarek

my role made me laugh so I’m happy with it

@Jarek

well I’m the source of the joker NPC’s the ability I have with them is comically worded.

Jarek softs and claims the Joker NPCs early on, which are going to turn insane and begin killing randomly.

@Jarek

I guess you could call me mafia or evil for it but I don’t really care the joke is that my role is funny sounding.

Doesn’t care about being branded evil.

@Jarek

I wonder if killing people for no reason includes me…

If I’m uncharitable, I could say that showing concern for their own life when the odds of being specifically killed by a Joker are so low, but even I think that’s a stretch, so…

@Jarek

@Magnus

I think this should go without saying, but don’t do this if you’re Town. Even if Mafia nearly outnumbers Town or something, you might inadvertently skip LELO entirely or something ridiculous.

The joker transformation is completely passive and turns you INTO MY ROLE which I suppose would mean you also get to make people insane too.

Keep in mind, Jarek’s role exacerbates the rate of killing, which is supposed to be entirely random. Sure, Mafia might be killed, and it’s most likely for Jokers to be killed, but… this role is probably -EV, and Jarek probably knows it. This doesn’t relate to finding the role funny, it relates to what comes later.

@Jarek

This honestly sounds like an NK but I don’t think an NK would have a bunch of NPC’s just show up and start killing people.

I think calling this out looks somewhat better for Jarek, at least relating to not being NK? If I’m being honest, I’m not really convinced much either way.

@Jarek

So you know, if a player happens to get turned into a joker I am GOING to make you insane.

So yeah, Jarek is willing to cause extra violence.

@Jarek

Come on it’ll be funny we can be joker buddies.

This isn’t a one-note joke, either.

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@Jarek

I bet the dude who has the Jenny bot is evil

I agreed with this take at the time, but there isn’t much evidence actually pointing to it. I dunno.

@Jarek

I wish for @Magnus To become a Joker

@Magnus

I don’t care how funny you think your role is, I can commute and communicate during the night and basically cannot die; you’re trying to override that with a random vigi. This is not helpful.

@Jarek

@God I change my wish to wish that a random player of your choice is turned into a Joker instead thank you

Jarek was willing to negotiate here…

@Jarek

It’s also a very abusable wish given that the mafia may not even be the only faction in this game.

I’d call it evil.

Scumreads Zorvo for his wish, never really goes anywhere with this. Given how Zorvo died, I’m thinking evils were scared by his wish, as I think Blizer mentioned earlier, so shading him and distancing from the read is odd.

@Jarek

Not much to say and no reason to solve when it’s a game where anything can happen I’m gonna have fun with my ability instead

Not bothering to solve? Please solve.

@Jarek

Idk when the joker is going to kill people, but I made the Movie Joker mad

This implies Jarek intentionally activated a rand-vig, and there’s no reason why they won’t do this again tonight, or the next night, until we have eleven rand-vigs and we basically lose by default.

[Magnus]

@Whysper

Maybe we can also discuss what you think about Wazza’s cop and post-restriction claims and then her vote on you yesterday

Headstart Alignment Cop, lesgo.

[Jarek]

@Magnus

Not bothering to solve? Please solve.

Last game I was in like this random shit was happening the entire time and I died at some point and lost wasn’t really engaging in the solvy sense more in the chaotic wtf is happening sense

I’m here for that this time

[Magnus]

Yeah, but can’t we be here for both?

[Jarek]

@Magnus

This implies Jarek intentionally activated a rand-vig, and there’s no reason why they won’t do this again tonight, or the next night, until we have eleven rand-vigs and we basically lose by default.

If you want to kill me then kill me I’m not going to not use my ability when everyone else gets to use insanely stupid and whacky abilities too

[Magnus]

Don’t you have multiple abilities?

[Jarek]

A good number of passives but no not really

[Magnus]

I don’t have this power, but how would you feel about having your rolecard superseded with another?

[Jarek]

I don’t want something worse but if it’s better then maybe

[Frostwolf103]

@Whysper

Okay, got it. But still

@Whysper

Oh, I wasn’t saying anything about the nolynch voting order. Just that Marluna switched from Jaiden to nolynch.

@Whysper

I can’t tell if he’s just being evasive in answering questions

I am not playing your mindgames when I already answered your questions you’re not satisfied, then so be it.
Please don’t presume it’s random, I am saying that the three players I mentioned doesn’t seem to have connection with Aelin hence I need to read more.

Consider this and I am sure Magnus noticed that as well, Eevee followed Marluna’s vote to Nolynch, Marluna is actually fine with Jaiden following the train despite Marluna have joined Wazza on Jaiden’s wagon.

This stinks and honestly, if you keep fooling around not paying any attention, then yes its a you problem which ain’t my concern.

[Frostwolf103]

VOTE: Marluna

[Magnus]

Problem solved. Assuming you aren’t executed today, which it doesn’t look like will happen, someone can rerand you tonight if they have an ability like Zorvo did (nobody claimed seeing either of these two things), they can target you tonight:

@Host_Account_3

You start with the Frozen Pecan item, usable as a laser or a mace.

• Laser - Either point a laser at a player to put a red dot on them or swing violently to show where you are during the night.
• Mace - Give a player a concussion, forcing their role to be put through the AI again.

By the way, I just noticed this:

@Host_Account_3

When someone stares at you and you them, you are able to control them the following phase.

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Otherwise, God wish tomorrow could work.

[Whysper]

@Blizer

@Whysper

Frost struggles with trying to explain his point (english isnt his first language), so there will be some mis communication there

@Blizer Thanks for this. And yeah, I get that, which was why I was asking for clarification to make sure I was understanding what he’s trying to say. But I guess I offended him into thinking I was trying to trick him or something, so I think I’ll stop with questioning him.

[Frostwolf103]

Ah right, I shall look into that threat.

[Frostwolf103]

*d

[Frostwolf103]

@Whysper

You already said that about keeping an eye on Marluna, so I guess at least a slight scum read there from you

Yes, I do.

[Whysper]

@Frostwolf103

This stinks and honestly, if you keep fooling around not paying any attention, then yes its a you problem which ain’t my concern.

Sorry if I offended you, Frost. I was just seeking some clarification to make sure I understand your position and not just assuming.

[Frostwolf103]

I get it, its usually my attitude that I can lose cool sometimes, but not something to be worked up which I will try to become more clear.

[Frostwolf103]

Originally I was going to vote Wazza, I don’t see a follow-up after doing that so that’s why Marluna who can give us more info upon lynch.

[Jaiden]

i forgo to come back