AI Upick Mafia GAME THREAD - ENDGAME - JOAKIM WINS

[eevee]

@Jaiden

im claiming this because i want to use my contract as a pseudo desparado on eevee. as soon as possible

Thought so, but again, not ideal choice.

[Jarek]

Give me one I want a desperado shot that sounds awesome

[Jarek]

no wait hold on let me check something

[Jarek]

Does your ability require you to be alive and present to use it or is it just a permanent thing that you’d get if you gave it to someone

[Frostwolf103]

@Frostwolf103

Secondly, the flaw about their ability that contradicts their claim.

@Marluna

Or mafia attacked me, my kill restriction worked, and the wolfs now try to eliminate me during the day…

This triggered me and not because I am angry, but go contradicting their own claim that’s starting to look fake to me.

[Frostwolf103]

Meaning the mafia deliberately avoid attacked at night 2. There’s no way a day ability can prevent that.

[eevee]

I’m still not fully understanding the restriction?

They can’t kill till they kill Marluna? They can’t kill Marluna till they kill someone else?
Isn’t second one just hider?

[eevee]

Does someone know where Marluna claimed and/or can link it?

[Frostwolf103]

I don’t know, Marluna did their own Q&A with host and that’s what she told us

@Marluna

The summarum of my Q&A with Geyde:

1. Mafia has a kill restriction.
2. Mafia knows they have a kill restriction.
3. Mafia doesn’t know where the kill restriction comes.
4. They cannot target a second person, in case their kill restriction comes on their first target. (Altough this one is still a question mark for me)

[eevee]

Yeah, that says nothing about kill restriction itself.

And since mafia knows theirs kill restriction (for example able to only kill from 3 lowest posters), they can just target one of those?

That is not what stops the nightkill.

[eevee]

tl;dr, possible.
And irrelevant.

Both.

[Frostwolf103]

I ISO for you, I also add more to it.

@Marluna

I have a very strong belief Zone is town.

I shouldn’t be able disclose why though.

@Marluna

I whish my ability would be that useful.

Zone said something which mafia players shouldn’t tell (but the part of it which makes them town for it comes from my ability, so I don’t want to disclouse this anymore.)

@Marluna

I’m a paccifist…

@Marluna

Going for no-lynch is beneficial for me. And if I understood my ability correctly mafia knows that too. (This is the main reason i’m saying Zone is town.)

@Marluna

If you believe I’m town.
It’s more beneficial than lynching random.
In my opinion.

The best thing, if no one is lynched, mafia cannot do anything against it. (Well, technically no one can, but its hindrance for the mafia the most.)

@Marluna

Side info: it is very likely Zorvo wasn’t a mafia kill.

But since I can’t say it for 100% i didn’t come out with it so far.

@Marluna

Well.

Mafia have all info they need to figure out my role. (Or at least this part of my ability.)

@Marluna

Fine…

Mafia has a night kill restriction while I’m alive. (But they was a possibility they didn’t know it comes from me until now.)

That is when Marluna claimed first.

@Marluna

The summarum of my Q&A with Geyde:

1. Mafia has a kill restriction.
2. Mafia knows they have a kill restriction.
3. Mafia doesn’t know where the kill restriction comes.
4. They cannot target a second person, in case their kill restriction comes on their first target. (Altough this one is still a question mark for me)

This comes after.

@Marluna

Cause i cannot die the next night if no one is lynched…

I don’t care if Mafia missed this, I don’t buy it. Why is no one else killed instead because Mafia had to withhold the attack so this looks more bad on Marluna or to hope they can unleash their full power since Marluna is balance restrainer even as mafia member?

@Marluna

So the most likely scenario mafia wasted their nightkill on someone they thought the restriction comes from.

(I repeat mafia shouldn’t have known during N1, that the restriction comes from me, they just knew it exists.)

@Marluna

Or mafia attacked me, my kill restriction worked, and the wolfs now try to eliminate me during the day…

Interestingly, that’s the same energy what Marluna said at first Day 3

@Marluna

Also I don’t know the exact restriction.
But based on my ability mafia should know it.
And it should be a funny restriction.

So I suggest people keeping their roles to themselves. (I have a suspicion it do something with role flavors,)

More the reason to execute Marluna also, it’s subtle little hint to something.

@Marluna

The thing is.
I don’t know if my ability restricted mafia or not…

The only thing I know, that it is possible, and it is very likely.

Yet looking back at Q&A

@Marluna

The summarum of my Q&A with Geyde:

1. Mafia has a kill restriction.
2. Mafia knows they have a kill restriction.
3. Mafia doesn’t know where the kill restriction comes.
   4. They cannot target a second person, in case their kill restriction comes on their first target. (Altough this one is still a question mark for me)

Maybe its just me that I figured out things sooner than Marluna but come on, really?

[Frostwolf103]

@Marluna Get back here

If you were to have suspicion based on your reads and actions before Day 3 who would be Wolf/wolves, who would you get lynched?

[eevee]

I am assuming they misunderstood “kill restriction” as “mafia can’t kill”.

I assume it’s more of a “if noone is lynched, your kill only works on pacifist” or “only works on non-voters”.

Kill tonight still urrelevant, they said its AFTER no lynch. And theee was one yesterday.

[Frostwolf103]

@eevee

I am assuming they misunderstood “kill restriction” as “mafia can’t kill”.

One of the possibilities I considered that it doesn’t stop at mafia attacks but from town as well.

@eevee

I assume it’s more of a “if noone is lynched, your kill only works on pacifist” or “only works on non-voters”.

Marluna have stopped asking how their abilities work for while so I am not sure if I want to go with your explanation or not.

[Frostwolf103]

@eevee

Kill tonight still urrelevant, they said its AFTER no lynch. And theee was one yesterday.

On serious note, why in the heck is it irrelevant? It can be also explained with the lack of attack.

[Frostwolf103]

@eevee

Kill tonight still urrelevant, they said its AFTER no lynch. And theee was one yesterday.

No come on, you think Mafia missed the part that Marluna has passive ability that she cannot be harmed N2 that can be only triggered with no-exe taking priority at N1 which she literally said that part at loud and Mafia STILL MISSED THAT?

No, they cant be that stupid.

Read the quotes again.

[Frostwolf103]

Mafia have event ability that can likely kill players that is activated at D2 and refuse to attack somebody at N2 so what is this bogus hocus pocus, Eevee?

That no-exe disables mafia and town’s killing abilities? Zorvo still died! Marluna gets away with the puns which is not affected by that mechanic, which I don’t know what would happen otherwise.

[Frostwolf103]

@Blizer

@Blizer

Also important

Tomb of horrors likely replaced the NK for mafia imo

Unless someone claims something that contradicts it, this is my tinfoil

Have you been following the thread, because I don’t buy this is what happened. It’s a day ability for crying at loud.

[Magnus]

@Host_Account_3

1. Gorta - Claimed Cultist
2. eevee
3. Magnus
4. Jarek - IC
5. Jaiden
6. Frostwolf
7. Whysper
8. lol
9. Marluna
10. Wazza
11. Windward - IC

Eleven players alive. Gorta’s claiming evil. Depending on the size of the scumteam, we presumably have three-four Mafia, since the OP claims the player distribution among alignments will be fair.
7 v 1 v 3
6 v 1 v 4

Blizer’s commuting. For the purposes of voting, this is today’s distribution:
6 v 1 v 3 / 7 v 1 v 2
5 v 1 v 4 / 6 v 1 v 3

The worst case scenario assuming v!Blizer and four Mafia makes today unannounced LELO.