An Attempt at a Sorc 17er - Game Thread

[Agent47]

VOTE: Noexe

[Eddie]

@baker
@thepigeonnyc
@tutuu
@Porscha
@Olivest
@Zorvo
@IcetFeelsPain
@Agent47

[tutuu]

what the fuck do u want??

[IcetFeelsPain]

Your soul

[tutuu]

@thepigeonnyc @Porscha @IcetFeelsPain

The Council has spoken that you three are the last members of the mafia

if any of you is town - then the last mafia is Olive, if we continue respecting The Council’s wishes

So please - the outcome of the game rests in your hands

Most of the rest of us bourgeoisie have decided we’re sheeping the legacy

So please, if you’re town, you need to go super saiyan and bury Olive

[IcetFeelsPain]

I have a question for you but IDK if I should say it

[Eddie]

katze (1): tutuu
Noexe (1): Agent47

Not Voting (6): baker, thepigeonnyc, Porscha, Olivest, Zorvo, IcetFeelsPain

[tutuu]

i give u my permission. you may speak

[IcetFeelsPain]

Do you know Mafia sorc is a may

[tutuu]

[tutuu]

i may or may not have forgotten about that

coughs

i knew that. of course i knew that, you inexperienced greenhorn mafia player, you.

you see. when you are as experienced as i am. you… you will understand my plan.

when you grow up you’ll understand.

[IcetFeelsPain]

With all the bomb Icet posts I thought it was wifom to get a read on me but I can’t fully grasp the wifom

[tutuu]

@IcetFeelsPain

but I can’t fully grasp the wifom

coughs

m-m-my goals are beyond your understanding.

[Zorvo]

@YoubutWorse

hi im here and have liked posts

i think baker/tutuu is v/w, see people saying they’re aligned and don’t really see why
arctic is probably town

Ok so this post means either YBW was trying to make people vote in there or they are truth telling.
It also means there is a likely chance they are both wolves (not that it was unlikely anyway) because a wolf wouldn’t draw attention to both the teammates like this if others thought both was town.
Now the only exception to this would be if YBW planned to try to get one wolf cleared off of the other which in this setup and the way the interaction went I don’t think it would be a needed strategy.

@YoubutWorse

fine
i think baker is more likely to be the wolf out of the two, tutuu seems good to me while baker hasn’t and I also liked tutuu’s very recent vote on guava, though I should make it clear I still believed that baker was the scummier one before that

@YoubutWorse

@Arete

give me 2 reasons tutuu seems good to you (besides the vote on guava) and 2 reasons Baker hasn’t (unless that’s just a nullread)

might sound dumb but vibes for both
didnt like baker bc this post (started vibes)

@baker

Anyone wanna bet?

Arete
Zugzwang
Zorvo
lol

thats my bet

just read as really off to me personally, like a mafia member trying to put some antispew into their ISo so that people overanaylze it

Here’s their follow up on it.

@YoubutWorse

no thoughts abotu achro currently, i saw their opening pots a while back and read it but it’s been like an hour since then and i’ve completely forgotten it and dont raelly care to look

Achro/Pigeon early game read.

@YoubutWorse

this argument between them is making me think that ya
already thought camgirl was town though so that’s a stronger town for me? but like based off of how achro is responding to camgirl im getting V vibes, will state openly that i am threatenend of achro as both alignments bc i know he’s really good at mafia and I will not keep this townread on him for long I think

Another Achro thing.

@YoubutWorse

@IcetFeelsPain

achro and camgrrl seem very t/t actually its more like camgrrl is town and achro seems geniuinely frustrated that seems towny but wolves can also be frustrated

i like this analysis of it bc i feel approximately the same way, a bit hedgty on achro’s slot though

Interaction with Ice.

@YoubutWorse

@baker

In our past two games, my RTI with tutuu was strongly indicative of them being town. However, in this game, their behavior appears quite different. While there is nothing wrong with what they have said, the reasons for their approach this time don’t convince me they’re town. Low energy, emotional state, lazy masonry yet highly respecting the player list and the game? It’s puzzling that others see them differently. Either I’m wrong, or everyone else is.

I remember someone showing how magnus was a lot different than their scum game but like
This post just isn’t towny??? i swear they’re being coached or something

Baker Interaction.

@YoubutWorse

@Porscha

well i’m not returning from anything, and i’m trying to jump in, the only thing looking at the vote count is going to do is make sit here and ask “hurr why is x person poe” which I can do regardless

@Porscha

gotta start somewhere and you aren’t helping me see anything other than you

baller posts ngl

Porscha one.

@YoubutWorse

@Apocryphal

Baker bleeding town

am leaning more towards baker town rather than scum personally but still don’t think bleeding town is an accurate assessment

Either YBW is throwing doubt to a Townie or trying to look good in case Baker flipped wolf.

@YoubutWorse

@tutuu

These are all innocent children. Please dont scumread them, i dont think its the right call

i feel like ive seen nothing from icet or porscha and i am still not convince on arctic. i will admit i think at this point im just scared of townreading arctic and him being sucm so im choosing to stay paranoid of him.

Mention of both Ice and Porscha.

@YoubutWorse

@baker

we can chop lol anytime

I would rather keep lol alive and see what happens

this just isnt a towny post

Proceeds to switch to lol.

@YoubutWorse

VOTE: lol

probably gonna be gone for a good bit of time

I still don’t think at all this makes Baker a wolf but it’s interesting to jot down.

@YoubutWorse

tutuu (i dont know if he counts as obv town tbf) and you

scumread: jinxed and arctic
i also scumread lol but im assuming you didnt want a consensus scumread

So the scum reads were all town and I’ll assume they town read Tutuu.

@YoubutWorse

baker isn’t obvtown he’s still like a null to me and i extremely dont understand why people keep going like “oh baker obvtown”. i understand the difference s in posting between his maf game and this but like I also had a really fucking shitty maf game (since it was my first) and then immediatley picked it up and figured it out during my next one soon after

Lmao. YBW’s obsession with Baker is funny.

@YoubutWorse

you said i was tunneling you when i have barely even pushed for your execution, and i’ve been teeter tottering on ur alignment like this entire day

i dont remember u asking for other reads

Like holy shit.

Let me go find some stuff not related to Baker but I think I’ll make a separate post for the next since this post is getting pretty long.

[Zorvo]

Yeah It would definitely be odd if it was Baker.
YBW would have been a jealous wolf that Baker was getting all the town reads and didn’t like it.
There is also a part day 2 from my memory where Baker made it clear they would vote off YBW.

[Zorvo]

I will say though as Zorvo pointed out.

Gotta give props to Porscha if them and baker are wolves. Porscha came into thread to prevent Zag from bombing them, that much I will agree with.

[tutuu]

i just need to iso olive.

there’s 1 villager in icet, porscha, pigeon, olive

i need to find them

[Zorvo]

@YoubutWorse

im not convinced porscha is town but I also don’t have any meta on them and I believe the townread is mainly based on meta

ty fo rbringing this to my attention agent

Porscha mention.

@YoubutWorse

i don’t want to try and influence zug’s choice bc its THEIR choice, but like if I got a choice i’d prob bomb one of you/baker/jinxed. not sure who tbh

ill vote once I see a flip

I know this involves baker but I want to show this to you guys.
So if we assume that this rule of 3 is all town, YBW hasn’t wolf read a single member of their team all game.

@YoubutWorse

im okay with that, don’t really have a strong read on icet in the first place. My order with those four people would be like arctic → sultan → jinxed → icet

I mean though, here is a mention of Ice, No Baker here. Don’t mean to point it out again but I just don’t understand their treatment on Baker at all.

@YoubutWorse

• arctic, baker, jinxed, apoc
• arctic, jinxed, apoc, icet (could switch icet with other people but their my highest)

Baker/Ice I think might contain one unless YBW really wanted to town read their entire team.
But if we assume Porscha, Ice and Pigeon then they only briefly wolf read one of their teammate.

I’m going to look at the wagon yesterday and then move into looking at the ISO’s of Pigeon, Ice and Porscha which probably shouldn’t be too long since they are low posters other then Ice.

[tutuu]

@tutuu

there’s 1 villager in icet, porscha, pigeon, olive

i need to find them

we\re so close to winning. we just need to do this

@Zorvo @baker

(im not pinging atlas as he’s locked and loaded into olive as the town via sheeping)

[Agent47]

I also think olivest is town, unrelately so.