Don’t vote yet Olivest, I want Baker to check in and respond to me preferably.
game would be over if it was Olivest Baker so Pigeon is a scum
Still want Baker to respond to me
As well as check in to see if they have anything to add today.
Hmm.
You know Mac had really good fucking reads.
Achro/Porcha/YBW/Guava was their solve.
we could’ve won
look where we are
“We”?
And who says town isn’t going to win here?
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This specifically, right at the beginning of YBW’s iso, is what I think sounds specifically unaligned with baker. Going for a V/W read this early on with no real, like, cause… I don’t think YBW does that if her read is correct. She only goes for baker specifically when pressed into it by Arete. Wolves love to say V/V arguments have wolves and they love to say W/V arguments are V/V - I think this reads way more like leveraging two villagers fighting to create conflict than trying to bus for cred.
Like, she hedges on the read quite a bit, I won’t deny that she hedges, and I can sort of see where you’re coming from w/r/t it seeming kind of like a bus? But if you look through the rest of her iso, it’s a read she maintains until the end:
And I don’t think a wolf calls out an opinion on a buddy, even a correct one, as their “most controversial opinion”, as YBW did up there.
Meanwhile, her read on Icet right at the end, adding him to a “likely mafia team” without calling him sus seems super forced, super… “oh yeah we could switch him with other people” but not explaining why or where that read comes from. It feels like she tossed in a bus right at the end there while in antispew: distancing from Icet without actually risking damaging his thread standing by placing an actual scumread on him.
The one thing that makes me hesitate is this near-identical treatment of Porscha and Icet, compared with a scumlean on Baker and a townlean on Achro/Pigeon. My current solve would have YBW treating two buddies identically here, but I think that could make some level of sense if she’s townreading one of her buddies? Exchanging in that ignoring-partner cred for a good-read-on-partner token. I don’t really see her putting two of her buddies in null and one in scumleans, that’s just unnecessary bussing… it’d have to be Baker/Pigeon for it to be Baker at all.
(And for it not to be Icet)
All-in-all, I am just… pretty sure it’s Pigeon/Icet. Marginal worlds where Baker/Pigeon exists, but I don’t think they’re likely, I think YBW’s treatment of her partners is pretty clear. The one thing I wanna do is look through Porscha to validate the worlds work, which I haven’t done yet. Let me go do that
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(reply to Pigeon)
(reply to baker saying something to Jinxed)
Weeeird commentary on Achro (pigeon has already subbed in at this point)
Lot of focus on baker here
Is this a slip that baker is town? I think it could be a slip that baker is town.
Super awkward and could be interpreted as partnery but honestly I think it’s just wolfy in the abstract?
And absolutely zero mentions or replies to Icet that I can see here. Porscha’s iso is very, like… sparse, a lot of endless circular arguments with villagers, and not a ton that narrows down partnered worlds here. Still does sound unpartnered with baker, though, so I’m even more comfortable saying that it’s prooobably just Pigeon/Icet. I’m going to go back to packing for college now 
Good night vchat
I mean. It makes sense but he’s my take on the vice versa.
This here can be used to look good when Baker flips Wolf. And can be used as a reason to make them town.
They also can say how she was the first to point it out.
This can also be used to pocket Tutuu, they also never directly pushed Baker. Only stated suspicions.
YBW as stated before is confused why Baker is in their “Town” meta and if Baker is a wolf it’s TMI that they are teammates and didn’t understand why Baker kept getting cleared for no reason.
Questioning why people are just handing Baker town reads.
I actually should go look into YBW to see if at any point they talked about their independent Baker read
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I feel like YBW here could just have been jealous, they don’t seem to have an actual read on Baker just a problem with others town reading Baker.
Ok this is actually interesting what does this mean.
The ( stuff ) in that, notice she said “you” as if it’s directed exactly to Baker.
One thing that stills pings me a bit though is the fact Baker had read Pigeon as exactly Mafia Sorcerer I believe during last day phase.
As well as hard town read Porscha for a reason I don’t entirely understand.
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That’s why I’m asking them about it
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Yeah that part was the thing that first made me suspicious of Porscha.
It made me feel that them and baker could be aligned simply because I was talking with Zag at the time about that they should bomb baker and then Porscha came out of nowhere to intervene and start saying Baker is Backup.
And that Baker shouldn’t claim and shouldn’t be bombed.
Stop making sense