An Attempt at a Sorc 17er - Game Thread

Reading YBW ISO, there is a major tonal gap between her interactions with townies and mafia. It seems like they are more relaxed and nonchalant with mafia + Olivest than they are with townies, as they seem constipated when talking to others.

do you have a mafia game on FoL

none

well this could be one.

do you mind voting first since there is 6 hours left

30 hours left

@olivest who would you crossvote with

oh okay then I will take a break

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IceT do you also think I should be voting first?

need to know olivestā€™s thoughts first

you can have your own opinion no?

but Iā€™d like to hear everyone speak first

Olivest did speak first if you go back and read, they requested me to vote first which I found very suspicious.

I am asking your opinion on the matter and in general about voting. We have also brought up points about Olivest being wolfy so they will have a lot to respond. I want to understand your thoughts right now before Olivest responds

Reading back everyones legacies, I was townier than both of you so it makes no sense as to why Olivest is pushing me to vote first. I think you or Olivest needs to vote first

they spoke before I spoke and never spoke again after I spoke

tbh :wowee: I just want someone to cross with me so I can cross with them

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Alright, Iā€™ve calmed down. After discussing with Story, I think Icet should probably vote before baker. His earlygame treatment of Achro is very very bad and sounds exactly like someone hyper-aware of a high-influence partner.

Nearly half Icetā€™s early posts are about Achro, the focus stands out a ton in a game where plenty of other stuff was happening, and he just doesnā€™t feel like he has real opinions. Heā€™s clearly nervous in thread around him and it shows.

He also starts townreading pigeon out of nowhere when the slot swaps over, and:

Gives this PoE where heā€™s talked way more about the townreads on town than those on scum.

This sounds like trying to justify sheeping tutuu on the Porscha read, the latter post is apparently unprompted

And this is weird agenda-y bullshit

This speaks for itself as a series of thoughts & sets up Apo after YBW flips

Once it becomes ExLo, Icetā€™s reads shift around a ton - it feels like they suddenly start bussing for cred here, and they add the three flipped wolves into their solve. They also start posting waaaay more. I think thatā€™s very much indicative of a scumteam realising not all their members are gonna survive and changing strategies

Especially in light of this quote.

This is before any of them died. An exact list of the scum.

And they play up their one incorrect wolfread, talking about how weak it is, talking about how they still townread meā€¦ which feels like a wolf burdened by their TMI.

Also for the record Iā€™m polarised as hell.

This suuuucks man this is so self-aware

Icet doesnā€™t say this about any of the other players they previously townread. They donā€™t say it about Pigeon/Achro, they donā€™t say it about Porscha. Itā€™s blatantly different treatment that I think just comes from scum with TMI here. I got in my own head too much about baker. Iā€™m not gonna throw in F3.

ok so what if you voted first :wolf_woah:

Also FTR itā€™s been almost all May in the posts here and fucking around is not AI for me. Hereā€™s a towngame where I did literally nothing

I would also like to emphasise that I have been immediately found as wolf on opener by Arctic and Magnus basically every time theyā€™ve played with me. I have issues handling stress, it makes me extremely polarised, if I knew how to fix it, Iā€™dve done so already. They have me down. Here are my two most recent wolfgames, Arctic gets me in both.

And hereā€™s the last time I wolfed in Olivest, where I just had Jaiden handle the entire game for me because I was too stressed to even post.

https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hell-echoes-fm-town-victory/

But itā€™s scary :(

And Iā€™d have to ask Jaiden first and sheā€™s not here