Blizer (5): Achromatic, Vulgard, Hazardwaste, Kanave, Kiiruma
Marluna (4): Frostwolf103, JakeTheWolfie, IcetFeelsPain, Leafia
Kanave (1): Blizer
Frostwolf103 (1): Rajidae
Not Voting (4): robyn, Marluna, guavagudetama, beancat
Now that tales of the abyss is over frost and leafia are completely out of their wolf range lmao.
So catching on, we have 3 hoods and 2 masons. Thatās a lot of claims that shouldnāt have happened in D1.
At one hand that will mean that thereās no room for social type of claims
Well its kind of fun to be crazy in closed setups. Anti claim vigs can usually only happen once a night.
But also i had already made some social reads too.
Yeah almost everyone cooperated on D1 which is a sight to behold compared to Tales of Abyss
I would improve my reads when the situation requires to.
Which reads are you referring to?
soooooooooo
ive been on and off asleep, finally woke up and did a little back reading and i seem to be at l-3
I know i havent been super active to actually play, which has hurt me with not being able to make reads, interact with other slots etc with IRL stuff, is it frustrating, yes, but im not gonna get angry at other people for playing the game that i didnt have the time to do so.
So, i really dont like to claim early, and i dont think you guys would believe me if i do, i will claim it if necessary here, and everyone wants me to do so lol.
Only self resolving if one of the masons flips town. Whoās your mason buddy?
Youāre not. I literally claimed masons with a wolfbuddy the very first game I was ever in on the old site.
You do realize that wolves can easily claim masons, right? I donāt believe Kanave for a nanosecond. Especially when they havenāt claimed who theyāre masons with.
You do realize wolves can claim mason too right? Iāve done it myself as a wolf and worse yet, they isnāt even claiming who theyāre masons with.
I can see that being possible. VOTE: Kanave I donāt trust their mason claim for a nanosecond. Especially when they didnāt even claim who they were masons with.
UNVOTE This is what I wanted. Thank you.
Weāll know by tomorrow whether or not the masons are real.
I lowkey believe Guava here.
Iād want to as well just for the lols if I could survive an execution.
Me too.
No.
Now to get a bit more sleep. 
So reading up on the case
Basically, Kanave claimed Masons with IceT, and Vulgard pointed out how if wolves switch roles it would affect both the neighbourhood and potentially the masons, unless something is in place to keep that from happening, which means they are less likely to be wolves?
Tbf, i feel like zone/hosts would have something in place if thats the case, cause if true, that actually would be a pretty significant oversight from them in regards to that info
Essentially, this led to Achro and co changing views on the slot, saw that my slot wasnt really doing anything, but was more sidelining (again, cant be mad, frustrated, but cant be mad) due to my thread approach so far is what im assuming?
itsā¦ hard to argue against that tbh, cause i very much was low effort with the game due to my IRL situation at the moment
Masonary is real
This is assuming that we can trust you.
If we do then the masonry does exist.
Also if one half of yall ends up dying and you flip correctly (Weāre warned people might false flip) then itād support the other one of you.
Blizer (5): Achromatic, Vulgard, Hazardwaste, Kanave, Kiiruma
Marluna (3): Frostwolf103, JakeTheWolfie, IcetFeelsPain
Kanave (1): Blizer
Frostwolf103 (1): Rajidae
Not Voting (5): robyn, Marluna, guavagudetama, beancat, Leafia
yeah and as vul said, unless something is in place, it would be called out immediately by either if there was a new person who came into either or, and again, i dont think Zone would make a significant mistake in regards to something like this, as it is one of the unique features of the setup, and i dont know if he had bunch of roles made or if he just had the specific 15 in the game, but having both a mason and 3-man neighbourhood with this rule and not having something in place for it in regards to that is uhh something
unless there are multiple factions, but considering its just says town and mafia, i doubt it
Hello Blizer, as far I have seen so far. There are now three 3P claims and Kiiruma also mentioned thereās one ānastyā 3P in the play.
One at least, is bound to be lying.
But you know what? Thatās not the main focus unless itās threating the win condition for town like the mafia group.
sooooooo
its a bastard game, and also, 4 neuts and 3-4 wolves would mean like
7-8 town members in the game so
even 1 neut with Kii putting out the NK is a third of the playerlist non-town soo
idk if i truly believe the neut claims at all, and if they arent lying
shit prolly will hit the fan faster than most people expect in this case depending on the power of roles in a bastard game, etc.
More than likely the slots are lying (maybe 1 is telling the truth), but it shouldnt be the focus unless it becomes necessary to deal with them.
I am bleary eyed did blizer claim or am i shooting
