Skimmed to catch up, while I don’t like how creature is responding to Rhea, it feels like the two of them are just using “concern” differently, with creature taking it as a sign of alignment and Rhea not. I don’t think its too AI for eithier of them
It mostly boils down to their handling of the push on starboy, I feel. Frostwolf’s vote on starboy is the other vote I don’t know the reasoning behind but frostwolf is a null read, whereas I feel like canping has…well, coasted by on the coat-tails of other pushes, thus far.
It helps that I TR starboy and therefore am naturally against those who don’t because I believe there’s a chance they’re willfully ignoring what I am not to get an easier “evil” read. And I admit that might have some bias, but I don’t feel like much of the contributions canping have made indicate a strong alignment either way - mostly just pitching in or asking relatively risk-free questions. That combined with the reasoning on being starboy (in my opinion) being a relatively weak reason leads me to the wolfy conclusion.
Definitely possible that Starboy isa hit which is why I’m not defending him.
As to whether or not Starboy/Kiiruma are paired, I do think it’s a possibility since it would explain why Kiiruma was trying to pair me with Starboy if Kiiruma/Starboy are w/w.
Starboy/Jarek likely unpaired. The way Jarek is defending Starboy feels pretty natural.
I make it sound like I want everyone to be philosophers asking questions about life and all that 
Interesting. While I am starting to soften on Starboy somewhat, I do think that Starboy’s push on Kiiruma for “saying he wouldn’t talk about mech and then talking about mech” is rather incoherent and doesn’t really make sense as a wolfcase. I have appreciated that Canping pushed back against it, which is probably where our disagreement on Canping comes from.
I appreciate the explanation of reasoning, thank you.
I’ll also say this. The most likely scenario is that Kiiruma and Starboy are the same alignment. Not impossible that they’re of differant alignments, but not very likely I feel.
yeah but in a weird roundabout way I’d figure a wolf with no current pressure on them would come up with a better excuse to try and push someone than an incoherent rambling, but at least I can see where you’re coming from. For me for a wolf to be in that kind of state then their partner would have had to have been in an even more sorry state, you know?
Kiiruma hasn’t talked about mech at all. Other than to say not to talk about it. That’s the main issue I have with his slot. It just seems weird and performative to me.
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What makes you say that? If you SR us individually thats one thing, but if one of us is town, what makes you think the other would be town too?
The way that Kiiruma is trying to pair the two of us together. I’m not so sure he’d do thatnif he was a wolf and you town and I’d think by now that he’d know enough not to do it as a villager because he knows me better than that. I guess it’s possible that you’re a wolf and him a villager but if so, I’m going to be very disappointed in him.
Why would you be disappointed in him for voting a wolf as town
That’s not the part I’d be disappointed in him for. i’d be disappointed in him because he should know me enough to know that the two of us are never wolfbuddies. If we were, I’d have been pushing you at least a bit, probably more. See how I treated Hippo last game.
Could you elaborate more on these reads?
just very light wolfy vibes, but it could be natural vibes im not sure
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yes it is sitting in my pm as a modified version of the one i posted
also im mostly town leaned by people yay
how it feels looking at these wagons
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I find the way Leafia did not try to claim her role reveal would clear her villagery, for the record, and that forms a large part of my townread of her. I also find her thoughts and worldview rather self-consistent, as far as I can tell.
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