April Showers The Third - DAY 4 (10/16)

[Marluna]

Agreed.

VOTE: Leafia

I think it is more likely to be a hit.
I just don’t see how different she is from Ice age mafia.

[Jarek]

I’m looking back on them some more and their recent posts do mostly focus around kiiruma - but they are also voting on them and I don’t think starboy is making their suspicions on that slot very hidden at all.

Someone mentioned that they might be oppurtunistic setting up kills for later as a wolf, but

@Starboy

but this reads like a bit of a stretch to me. The town, as Jarek had said, had more or less moved on. I find it unlikely that Kiiruma would pop into thread, and attempt to divert away from an already dying disscussion. If anything I think, if Kiiruma is attempting to direct us, would be directing us back onto the disscussion.

This would have been a great time to jump on the kiiruma bandwagon that I was pushing at the time. They didn’t take that choice they’ve gone and done their own thing whilst still suspecting kiiruma anyway, which I think comes from a town perspective - in the sense that they didn’t follow a read they didn’t believe in, until they found something themselves.

[Jarek]

VOTE: Canping

I think their reason for voting starboy is the least…present?

[Chomps]

@Chomps

Star’s esrlier messages just made me think they come from an agendaed perspective, i read them, i can see a wolf making those, trying to control their words and just appearing towny, slowly making the first plays to their pushes later in the game

come on my reason is right here smh

[Canping]

starboy has been forcing the kiiruma wagon with a very bad reasoning. but i don’t mind changing it to leafia

[Canping]

i personally dislike kiiruma wagon

[Jarek]

Personally it doesn’t feel forced - if they were trying to force it, as I say, I believe they’d have just taken my push and added to it

[Rhea]

@Starboy

Kiiruma spent many of their early posts repeating that they didn’t want to talk about mech, and that we should stop talking about it, but then half of their posts were about mech, or about their earlier posts

What is your proposed wolf motivation for this? Wolves don’t lie for no reason. If w!Kiiruma wanted to talk about mech, he could have told everybody that talking about mech was an important, good idea and avoided that contradiction easily. He didn’t.

[Rhea]

@Creature

On the other hand I’m a bit concerned with Rhea caring about childe and me being absent when there are plenty of active players to be bothered about instead.

This is an absurd point to make. Of course I would be concerned that players are zero-posting, it is terrible for the game and could indciate being frozen. What, would you like me to just ignore you entirely? Do you think zero-posting earns you that right? If I did just ignore anybody without substantial posts, I would be a terrible player tricked easily by the worst wolf strategy in the world. What kind of argument is this?

[Rhea]

I do not find either Kiiruma or Leafia wolfy at present and do not want to vote for them. Starboy is wolfy to my eye, fixated on a point that really makes no sense as part of a case, but I would like a solid counterwagon to the vote which I believe in.

VOTE: Creature.

[Rhea]

Heiter’s contributions are sufficient that I am not interested in immediately voting for them, but I would like to keep an eye there on future days.

Creature’s contributions seem weak and full of excuses. His only genuine thought on the game so far seems to be a weak townread on soweli, who I feel is obviously town. Everything else he has done is expecting others to be able to read him when he has made no substantial contribution to the game — not necessarily a wolf-exclusive behavior, but it feels like he has no comfort in the thread and that his goals relate more to being townread than finding wolves. His interactions so far feel like those of somebody who feels the game is pointless if people think they are wolfy, which is not what should be true of a villager.

I am comfortable keeping my vote here until and unless this changes.

[Rhea]

I will disclose that I have mechanical reasons to want a clear counterwagon at the end of the day, rather than one runaway wagon with many ties beneath it.

[Frostwolf103]

@Rhea

Starboy is wolfy to my eye, fixated on a point that really makes no sense as part of a case, but I would like a solid counterwagon to the vote which I believe in.

@Rhea

I will disclose that I have mechanical reasons to want a clear counterwagon at the end of the day, rather than one runaway wagon with many ties beneath it.

Without knowing your role, should Starboy turns out to be wolf then certainly this is not a issue?

[Rhea]

@Frostwolf103

Without knowing your role, should Starboy turns out to be wolf then certainly this is not a issue?

Even if Starboy is a wolf, it is better for there to be a singular player with the second-most votes rather than many tied wagons beneath. It gives much clearer information. That is all I will say.

[Creature]

@Rhea

Of course I would be concerned that players are zero-posting, it is terrible for the game and could indciate being frozen.

It was like halfway into D1. There are a ton of reasons a player could be inactive at that time. Wolves don’t just go inactive as strategy (they try to post something game relevant at least). You could just put your focus into the players who are posting quite enough.

If it was like end of day 1 or day 2 already, your concern would make more sense. Focusing on players not posting feels very pointless.

[Creature]

@Rhea

His only genuine thought on the game so far seems to be a weak townread on soweli, who I feel is obviously town.

Yes, because that’s the only townread I got. I would be lying if I said I had a townread on anyone else, because no one else has given me a good reason to townread them.

[Creature]

@Rhea

Creature’s contributions seem weak and full of excuses.

They aren’t excuses. I literally am not allowed to use my mobile during my work time.

It would be an excuse if it was something like “I am on a bus and don’t want to mobilepost” when I could very well mobilepost.

[Heiter]

Hi bestie are you the evil fucking wizard

[Creature]

@Rhea

Everything else he has done is expecting others to be able to read him

I never expected anyone to read me right now. I was just arguing about Leafia blaming my playstyle for wrongly wolfreading me on Wrogn mafia while most other players didn’t have much of an issue to correctly townread me.

I am being defensive as my playstyle in general, not specific to this game.

[Creature]

@Rhea

but it feels like he has no comfort in the thread and that his goals relate more to being townread than finding wolves.

My current only concern is to not get mislynched, because that would harm my alignment’s chances to win and help wolves. Other than that, I plan to find a couple of townreads and a player I trust to lead a wolf lynch D1.

I don’t plan to find a wolf on my own and take leadership of anything today.