Eh to be fair I think leafia auto defaults to going with kiiruma most of the time? Or maybe just someone they know.
VOTE: Leafia
actually im sheeping rheaVOTE: Rhea
oops VOTE: Heiter
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Not sold on leafia, I think resolving the apparent incorrect investigative information is prudent as opposed to uh, what amounts to blind guessing?
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Itās not really blind.
Leafia just wants to appear to be town, and believes she reserve to being townreaded on superficial reasons.
I would also much prefer to execute between Heiter and pandora today, preferably Heiter first. If pandora flips town with the exact ability described, we know that either Heiter or Jarek performed a visit last night.
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Now I can see what you mean I have actively been seeing this but I just see that every game, town or not, from leafia and much like chomps I donāt read them for what they do in these early days any more
I donāt mean to put myself in the line of fire here, but if you roleblocked heiter, wouldnāt your choice be between killing me or pandora?
In this world, youāve roleblocked heiter, marluna claims just 1 visit and I claim none. If pandora is a wolf or whatnot then it entirely depends on what their ability is since theyād likely be lying yada yada
If pandora is town thenā¦I mean, the only conclusion you should reach here is the occams razor of heiter roleblocked, Marluna telling the truth (why would they lie when they are tracked after all), Me lying because Iām the only one unnaccounted for. I know Iām telling the truth - you donāt know that.
Now yeah I guess marluna could be lying and has 2 visits not just 1 and be the liar in that world. But thatās a weird thing to lie about when youāve been tracked, lets be honest.
Honestly, maybe Iām overthinking this. I know Iām not a visiting role and I know Iām real so maybe Iām just being taken at face value. Still down to put myself in the line of fire to make this ironclad though.
but she did way too much compared to any villa game I remember from her.
a few interactions of her can be described the following way.
ālook at me, Iām definetly town for this and thatā and when someone points out, that the thing she did, doesnāt make them town, she follows up with: āI didnāt claim it makes me townā
Itās just so misleading. And as far I know, town Leafia sticks to her claims, and defuses (or at least tries to) the incorrect reads on themself before just simply changing the perspektive on her previous messages.
It just doesnāt feel like Town Leafia for me.
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I donāt read leafia much one way or the other currently. Theyāve done things I consider townie as much as wolfy and like I said I just donāt achnowledge the slot that much one way or the other socially speaking.
In another word I like reading leafia mechanically rather than anything else.
in another another world if you want my vote, my vote is a vanity vote currently so if youāre asking for me to join your cause Iām not against it. Iād prefer to resolve the investigative discrepency but as detailed above until my questions are answered, itās kinda weird how itās being handled imho
Roleblock immunity.
Does roleblock immunity (typically) imply wolfiness?
Enough to justify pushing them in your world?
It is very common for wolf roles to have some form of roleblock immunity, from anti-claim, from specific actions which cannot be blocked, and so on. Heiter have not claimed any kind of roleblock immunity, so at this stage they would be necessarily hiding it to the villageās detriment, which is enough for me to treat it as a guaranteed wolf slot.
Additionally, you would have no real reason to claim that you were the one to not visit if you had actually visited. It would be pointless self-incrimination. Most roles are visiting and there was no kill last night. You could simply claim your true visit and a false role if you were that concerned.
I am specifically concerned about Leafia because I cannot quite get a handle on the exact moment she changed her mind about Kiirumaās alignment. She was sure Kiiruma and Starboy were V/V or W/W for reasons I found rather shaky to begin with, then Starboy flipped V. She should have townread Kiiruma in theory. Of course, since her initial reasons for pairing the two were shaky, I would understand if she came around on that readā¦ but she seemed to āstart softening on Kiirumaā no less than three separate times this morning, which is odd. One would think she would only change her mind once.
Hmm. It makes sense to me. I have potentially needless paranoia that your goal here is to āchainsawā both me and heiter, and kill pandora last. Itās paranoia. But youāve explained this well enough to dissuade some of that paranoia.
Justā¦yknow, donāt expect me to die so easy if Iām actually right 
VOTE: Heiter