April Showers The Third - DAY 4 (10/16)

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#1021

@Marluna @Kiiruma please vote heiter to help me with the mafia trying to mislynch me :pray:

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#1022

Jarek is this not sufficient

#1023

pandora claims two visits were performed on Jarek, Maruna, and Heiter collectively. I was one such visit on Heiter. The other visit was not necessarily on Heiter. It could have been performed on any of the three. There is no evidence whatsoever that Heiter specifically was visited by Smiley.

#1024

Sufficient for what

#1025

oops didnā€™t see this

#1026

forā€¦ it being true RNG

#1027

I actually call this a wonder that Heiter is this random town-aligned player in that scenario thus the roleblock you used on Heiter doesnā€™t mean heā€™s using factional attack! Because the attack itself would have succeeded but that didnā€™t happen BECAUSE it only works on town-aligned players that is randomly assigned, NOR it can be manipulated by everyone else.

#1028

Yeah the argument for it not being true RNG is mostly just a what-aboutism and not actually relevant, but smiley is there and itā€™s a possibility

#1029

are you saying that smiley only targets players with actions??

#1030

Yes, I have seen the action. It targets a random town-aligned player. If Jarek is town, then he could have been visited. If Marluna is town, then she could have been visited.

#1031

Did heiter get roleblocked or not?

#1032

You just quoted from the host, look again

#1033

You know personally I think Iā€™d love for heiter to be here, anyone else?

#1034

iirc thereā€™s nothing saying that Jarek & Marluna had actions that failed so i donā€™t see the contradiction

#1035

No, if Smiley is targeting Heiter then he cannot be roleblocked and given the attack failed, what otherwise would have succeed if he was town-aligned.

#1036

how do we explain heiterā€™s immune to roleblock last night. @Heiter please confirm if you were roleblocked or not last night.

#1037

I used a roleblock item on Heiter. They have claimed they do not know whether or not they were roleblocked. We do not necessarily have evidence that this roleblock succeeded, but there was no factional kill last night and nobody else has come out as being able to stop it. I believe that Heiter was carrying the factional kill.

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#1038

@Frostwolf103

#1039

Rhea still used the item to visit Heiter, whether it succeeds or not matters none.

#1040

yes?? Why are you saying that heiter must have been targeted by smiley