Assassin in the Palace - Game ends. The Assassin wins.

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#321

Well, I subconsciously realized that, if I moved around too much to find out who the King is, then I might eventually end up voting them and get killed for doing exactly that.

So instead I proceeded to mindlessly vote the biggest threat I know of, which is you.

Moving my vote would mean more heat on me. I don’t need more heat. You townread me for voting you, which NGL confused me, but uh… Yeah, had I put more effort into the game, then I would’ve changed my mind about my target and lost the game.

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#322

At first I was lying. I only figured you might’ve been trying to send me a message later.
D1 I was pretending the assassin wouldn’t wildly vote first and risk voting the King, and while you did vote the King I couldn’t exactly say that. By townreading you, I was hoping to say ‘hey, I’m not the King’! I was trying to think a few steps ahead.

#323

Have I reached the point where I need to play under alt names for every misc? Hmm.

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#324

Oh, yeah. You trying to TMI me as King threw me off so hard, so that actually worked well.

At SOD1, I realized that I could have been voting the King immediately, which is why I thought: “Don’t move that vote from Magnus. If I was Town Guard, then this could be seen as making myself unaligned with Magnus.”
So, tunneling you worked out for me, apparently.

I didn’t notice that iaafr and Atlas were TMI’ing you, but I did notice that you talked a lot. After you threw me off by townreading me, I had honestly thought you were a guard trying to play this game for real, so then I checked who else might be King, and I thought it was iaafr tbh.
–but then insomnia kicked in.

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#325

It worked. It threw me off so hard. :joy:

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#326

Nah… You were just unlucky.
Had you not randed King, then I would’ve most likely still gone after you.

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#327

This would be extremely pointless unless you’re willing to change your schedule because

  1. is magnus in the game
  2. is the alt australian
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#328

If you read through Atlas’s early posts as well as Iaafr’s in response to me, it should become obvious in hindsight. I just had the insight to know my own role.

D1 I was trying to TMI Whysper as King, but I quickly gave up on doing that. Soon after I was trying to suggest I was distancing from Eliza, since I brought her up a few times but never made any attempt to push her. I was pretty much trying to make it look like anyone else could be the King except me (or Atlas, but it was fairly obviously not Atlas).

The alt could be CRichard, tbf.
I can wake up during the nights, but I struggle to resist the temptation to post when I have something interesting (to me) to say.

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#329

i never attempted to make any competent thought this game
i just assumed the assassin expected competence and tried my hardest to give off as many signals as possible

#330

because i had no brainpower to be any sort of good player throughout the entire game

#331

I was silently mortified at this point, so I tried getting you to back off without spoiling the King’s identity in case you were fishing.

But you didn’t back off.

#332

As an actual guard, I would’ve said something like “I don’t know about the King, but I’d appoint you as jester any day”.

I was also planning to hardclaim King D1 like you did.

So I do play differently depending on my wincon, but I always try to obscure what I’m trying to do.

#333

i just said whatever came to my head
it would be better if i could’ve shaded several people but only three of us mostly participated

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#334

It was probably just obvious to me, since I had to look at everyone’s posts in relation to me, and therefore the two active players interacting with me would make posts I could interpret as TMI, whether correctly or not.

#335

gg lol

sorry for not dealing with the TMI that well and TMIing to some extent but also taking such a leadery thread position as king is risky in general. not that it seemed to matter in this particular instance due to zone’s approach.

like the optimist in me hoped that my interactions could somehow make eliza seem like king (as the person i nominally pressured but never ended up sticking onto) or atlas seem like king (with performative sussing then backing off) but somewhere deep down i was afraid that i was contributing to magnus seem like obvking

glad to see i was right on my early impression that zone’s approach actually lacked TMI on the king but alas none of it mattered due to how the setup works

ggwp all!

thanks for host crich! i had some enjoyable moments.

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#336

reflections after playing the setup for the first time: it is a funny role reversal setup where the greens are kind of the reds (have TMI and need to protect their own) and the lone red is kind of the solver who must solve the game. as a town soul, i probably would enjoy this setup easily the most as the assassin, since coordinating as guards+king is actually quite difficult, as i’ve already lamented a bit.

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#337

I expected most of the players here (with the exception of Whysper and yourself) were familiar enough with me to assume I’d take a leadership position regardless of my alignment, and fading into the background would only draw scrutiny if anyone else was the assassin. My goal, therefore, was to appear as though I was a guard doing all this, which I apparently did well according to Zone’s testimony? I started off assuming I’d lose us the game, and trying to subvert what felt inevitable.

I feel like this game would be really fun, albeit suboptimal, if everyone was active and contributing to discussion. I’m sure the setup could use a few improvements, although I’m not sure what I’d start to suggest.

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#338

i think your strategy had merit in that you basically WIFOMed as “too obvious of a king to be the actual king”

i imagine there are many hypothetical assassins who would’ve fallen for it, because from the outside, i could easily imagine an assassin being paranoid you were simply too obvious to be king and were actually a guard committed to projecting king the entire game, with other guards playing along. therefore, i can’t fault your macro approach. it did make me nervous to play around you as the actual king, but that was part of the challenge.

but again, zoneq11’s particular mindset hard countered it, which is pretty funny.

i’m not much of a setup theoretician so i’ll leave that discussion to others.

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#339

Hooray for no-braining gameplay. :crazy_face: :face_with_spiral_eyes:

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#340

Here’s why I voted Atlas at the end there, instead of taking the safe vote:

I was townreading Atlas for superficial reasons, and I’ve fallen for that before. Therefore, Atlas was an actively null read, and someone suspected by another player (namely, Iaafr). I had interacted with Atlas enough to make me think even if they were the assassin, they possibly wouldn’t kill me.
I didn’t actually townread Zone, I didn’t trust him, but I was keeping an open mind and I could see him as a potential good player. I also thought he’d expect me to act this way from Starcraft.
I also felt like I was a predictable King pick, so I felt like I needed to try something drastic. Hey, why would the King ever involve themselves in a three-way rand? I trusted that 66% percent, and I figured it might set me up for the rest of the game. Whereas voting Zone might make me look as though I cared about preserving my own life.