ironically though, the dangerous one of me and vul is me 
vul’s godread kryptonite is broken
he didn’t show back up until JUST before eod, all he had time to do was question why arctic was a wagon
that isn’t YOUR fault obviously, but it did work out conveniently
Marl you have wolfed with me before, you know I just kill the people with good reads instead of doing galaxy brain 5d chess about how maybe someone asking an innocuous question means they’re a deadly threat
There are maybe possible questions that I might take into consideration but ‘what are your reads’ is Not It
Like your entire argument is equally strong if you phrase it as ‘Aro is a good player and Arete would want to kill good players’ which, like, at that point I feel like the problem is pretty obvious
aro didn’t even have good reads though! he was pushing eliza all of d2
well yes
this is obviously what i’m thinking
but it’s more
“why is arete not dead, what scumteam makes that make sense”
and it’s like
literally just you being scum is all i can think of, unless you have a better reason why you’re still alive
i’m here (but not like fully, i just got home and have stuff i need to do soon)
i had a weird dream last night where i was a wolf in this game and i got nominated for best wolf performance after we won just because theres like no good noms for the category
You have literally no reasoning for this.
Yeah this feels pretty bad.
You are ascribing implications that don’t exist to support your reasoning.
Exactly.
I already gave the argument why Neon and Aro died but literally everyone alive ignored it.
That’s because people generally just call the village bad rather than the wolves good when wolves win here.
i feel like all of these can be explained by stuff i’ve already told you whether it be me taking a backseat, or me genuinely scumreading magnus (so i’m not sure why that’s even a point in the first place?)
the last point is like… okay yeah no i was going to sugarcoat it but this read just never works on me
like the last time someone tried to use this read on me was when Marl deathtunneled me at the start of valorant FM because i was deflated due to the way the game was going (and i even wanted to roll wolf that game)
my enjoyment of the game in recent times has become much more linked to how the game is going for my alignment rather than my alignment itself
i mean it is true like 90% of the time
I’d still like to see some trustfalls/distrustfalls btw. We need to actually work together. You guys have not been doing that all game long.
that was like a tangential part of my case against her
what are your thoughts on the main body (where the vote is)
you won’t be happy to hear this but it was partly because i agreed with their eliza take at the time and partly because i think the way they steered away from zorvo to eliza felt villagery in the moment because if they were trying to make a push on zorvo in bad faith then turning around and shading people who are agreeing with you seems counterproductive to this, and it implies that arete was genuinely trying to solve the game rather than push in one direction
do you have reasons to suspect arete other than the eliza take
this is rough because otter/may are probably not w/w (though i’ll revisit this soon) and my scumread on otter has not really changed since the start of day 2 because they haven’t done anything else of note since then, and the only reason i want to kill may more is because they’ve become more wolfy than otter since then
gamestate wise though otter feels like the consensus-poe slot that everyone ignores which is usually a wolf, especially since it’s an easy push to make today since they haven’t even turned up and yet only vulgard is really going for it
I don’t understand why Marl wolfreads the take and is going so far as to misframe a dead villager’s posting to implicate Arete. Normally I’d say that makes someone obvious mafia but this is so on the nose and so unnecessary to do as a replacein wolf that I am just confused.
basically all of them?? Zorvo [who I think is a villager] has been tunneling me all game and my main scumreads were both wrong
it’s not like a thing you could only ever do as scum but I think you’d be more likely to do it as scum than to do it as town so it’s an update in the direction of you being scum
I can explain it better but it’ll require Math, let me know if you want the Math explanation
this read is extremely dubious
have you considered that them disappearing may be due to unrelated reasons to the game rather than #strats and this does not affect their chances of being a wolf
do you have a read on their actual content
i don’t know what you’re saying i should be disagreeing with you about, but i have disagreed with you several times that otter was a villager wagon (though i am currently unsure at the moment) and the reason i am not voting them is because i think may is more wolfy and otter/may are probably not w/w
i already said that i don’t think your take on their eliza take is good because i townread it, and your point on aro’s question just feels like regardless of your alignment you are trying to spin that as wolf indicative for arete when it is a massive reach
ultimately i don’t know whether this is wolf AI or you are just confbiased because it’s just unnecessary but i do know it is
do you have thoughts on literally anyone else