that was like a tangential part of my case against her
what are your thoughts on the main body (where the vote is)
you won’t be happy to hear this but it was partly because i agreed with their eliza take at the time and partly because i think the way they steered away from zorvo to eliza felt villagery in the moment because if they were trying to make a push on zorvo in bad faith then turning around and shading people who are agreeing with you seems counterproductive to this, and it implies that arete was genuinely trying to solve the game rather than push in one direction
do you have reasons to suspect arete other than the eliza take
this is rough because otter/may are probably not w/w (though i’ll revisit this soon) and my scumread on otter has not really changed since the start of day 2 because they haven’t done anything else of note since then, and the only reason i want to kill may more is because they’ve become more wolfy than otter since then
gamestate wise though otter feels like the consensus-poe slot that everyone ignores which is usually a wolf, especially since it’s an easy push to make today since they haven’t even turned up and yet only vulgard is really going for it
I don’t understand why Marl wolfreads the take and is going so far as to misframe a dead villager’s posting to implicate Arete. Normally I’d say that makes someone obvious mafia but this is so on the nose and so unnecessary to do as a replacein wolf that I am just confused.
it’s not like a thing you could only ever do as scum but I think you’d be more likely to do it as scum than to do it as town so it’s an update in the direction of you being scum
I can explain it better but it’ll require Math, let me know if you want the Math explanation
have you considered that them disappearing may be due to unrelated reasons to the game rather than #strats and this does not affect their chances of being a wolf
do you have a read on their actual content
i don’t know what you’re saying i should be disagreeing with you about, but i have disagreed with you several times that otter was a villager wagon (though i am currently unsure at the moment) and the reason i am not voting them is because i think may is more wolfy and otter/may are probably not w/w
i already said that i don’t think your take on their eliza take is good because i townread it, and your point on aro’s question just feels like regardless of your alignment you are trying to spin that as wolf indicative for arete when it is a massive reach
ultimately i don’t know whether this is wolf AI or you are just confbiased because it’s just unnecessary but i do know it is
this post from otter is really strange
i missed this before somehow
like… i was going to call it TMI but surely this is too blatant
either way the post doesn’t make sense regardless
vulgard your arete read is really bad
1 is nothingburger
2 and 4 is the same, people being distrusting of them isn’t even town indicative
wolf arete LITERALLY never kills town zorvo tunneling them
they just ignore them like they HAVE BEEN DOING
3 is way too nondescript to even have any actual meaning
what thoughts that arete came to do you think only town arete could have had?
it’s a gamestate read that fits with my social reads
but it’s also just… the way she’s been traversing the game feels like it has an agenda rather than being free-flowey. like there’s always an ulterior motive for what she does next and it feels calculated. the best thing i have to contradict this is her treatment of jarek but even that read ended up being a mess because it kinda just phased out of existence / got the “it was an RT all along” treatment
well, i said this because i thought both the nightkills suspected them but apparently aro moved otter up later in the day. it still holds for may, however
