and ftr, since I’m still townreading Zorvo, it’s more like Jarek/Prisma/Arete/Arctic
which is actually a pretty good POE size??
I should still ISO them though
i haven’t backed out of it, it just feels wrong to push it given what vulgard was saying before they died
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here’s my most up to date thoughts on arete
still dont townread them, they haven’t actually used this ‘day’ they are buying by ‘accepting death’
they just kind’ve exist, again.
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Anyway im just gonna
VOTE: Zorvo
Also forgot to say I am willing but whether i am able is another question
why though
the game has roughly the same amount of posts
that’s kind of the point i’m making - you felt more involved in the actual movements of that game in contrast to how you’ve played this one by making catch-up posts in a seemingly structured way and otherwise having little grasp on what’s been going on. there’s way less initiative here
Lmao.
“You”
“Zorvo”
You just referred to me in 2 different ways.
Also talk to me about your “Arete Read”.
What is your thoughts on Marluxion?
Also he never cleared me I don’t think.
That was day 1.
Early Day it’s not really much of an issue, but later on it is and your vote was later on.
I do think about others. I will talk with them and still disagree.
I’m not like you who thinks about Vulgard and votes a town that he pushed and get them executed. 
Lmao.
Actually i was referring to lemon not you zorvo
So you think the team is Me/Arete/Lemon?
Not you three all at once but definitely at least one of you
i looked over prisma again and i think they are town
i don’t think a newb wolf can or would think to fake this post unless they have already played social deduction games before @Prisma101 can you confirm or deny this
there’s also this
which i don’t think a newb wolf would have the confidence to make, where they are admitting that they want to kill someone not because they think they are a wolf but for completely unrelated reasons without being worried about looking suspicious. newer wolves are often very concerned about how they come across and his iso gives me the opposite vibe of this
i can see the argument that they might be playing too much into the newbie card, but i feel like this sort of reasoning is fallacious given that they are a newbie and (if they are town) do not have the guidance that they would have as a wolf. the closest comparison i have to this situation is sulit’s sister who in her first FM game snowed everyone as a wolf by still actually giving some semblance of reads (because i think she was coached). and i’m looking at prisma’s iso and it really does not seem like he’s been given any form of help in making reads or getting townread. like, they quite literally can’t substantiate any of their reads beyond the zorvo read i find it unlikely no one on the wolf team would have helped them by now
i did townread them early for playing in an exploratory way, but i’ll concede on later days they’ve sort of… stopped doing that. nonetheless my point that they don’t care about how they come across stands and newer wolves seem to be more self-aware generally speaking. the only post which made me feel otherwise was this but i bought their explanation that they didn’t want to give a wolf!zorvo more reasons to be able to make a push on them
gamestate wise, i said earlier. it doesn’t feel like a hit. everyone has them in the poe, everyone is fine with them flipping, but no one is trying to overtly grab credit for the pelt or save the slot which is what normally happens in these situations when it’s a wolf
i’m not lock on this, but i am strong enough on it to want to kill someone else. right now, it’s may, but tomorrow (i’m being dragged out again tonight so i do not have time right now) i want to look at lemon in detail
Literally only just among us lol
bolded’s what I’ve been saying all day but I don’t think we should policy him over it, it probably would’ve been worth it on day 1 but on day 4 it’s just like ‘oh let’s send ourselves into LyLo to … stop Zorvo from trying to do the same thing?’
Town Loses.
GG.
Not yet :/
gotta go but i’ll do this first
tentatively
seth jarek
marl prisma
molly lemon arete (unordered)
may
having to actually put pen to paper with this makes me realize that recency bias is making me drop molly
i just went to look at her posts from yesterday and her play seemed to be just looking at who the thread was suspecting and talk about that but she never actually gave a stance (or a vote) on who she wanted to kill
her other stuff is insanely villagery though so. idk im torn
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Can we just address how much zorvo declares we lose and mafia wins? Its nowhere near that atm
it’s okay if your reasons missed some of the things that happened, we just want to know why you came to those conclusions in the first place, even if you don’t think your reasons are very good, so it would be helpful if you would say what made you have those reads even if you are not confident
you showed up drunk to EoD when a villa was being hung and you’d already said you wouldn’t be there, and then you told me to fuck off which I’m pretty sure is because you were actually mad at me
Part of the reason I think you might be wolf is because lots of others have that suspicion
@Zorvo please actually read my post on prisma, with as much of an open mind as you can have. tell me what you think about it. please don’t just respond to this with “they are wolf”. just do due diligence. please.
threatening to stop playing because people aren’t listening to you is not going to help us win. it’s going to make people want to listen to you less, and it’s breaking down what little co-operation we have left
you haven’t been ignored. people listened to you on eliza, and you were wrong. no one deserves to be listened to any more than anyone else, what makes someone worth listening to is the quality of their argument
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