Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

[Magnus]

Want the serious or comedic answer?

[Prisma101]

Uhhh both

[Magnus]

Comedic answer first:

I’m Mafia.

Serious answer:
This is your first game, and you’re still trying to get into the swing of things. Not to be blunt, but everyone else in this game has more experience and would therefore make for a better nightkill.

[Magnus]

@mollylikesorigami

haven’t seen anyone here as both alignments. i think the person here i trust most to be findable if town is zorvo?

We’ll leave him to you.

@mollylikesorigami

that aged well lol

…Or not.

@mollylikesorigami

VOTE: otterpopd

@otterpopd

hi! how’s life?

RVS.

@mollylikesorigami

i think she’s pretty clearly an alt of someone who knows how to play the game, and she’s still been sitting on the side and acting like a new player who has no idea what to do

Follow-up explanation, I haven’t looked at Otter’s explanation but I’ll take this at face-value.
That cannot go wrong in Mafia, ever.

@mollylikesorigami

the derp clear is so tempting here

Noted.

@mollylikesorigami

ok i’m still pretty confused, but this does answer part of it

i’m mainly just irked by the lack of any sense of urgency in your start

you’re fixing that rn

keep fixing it if you’re town, flail and stop solving if you’re a wolf, promise?

Focusing on one particular player…

Molly: rand>v.

[Neon]

@Arete

• What is the last game of forum mafia you played, and what did you learn from it?
• What alignment were you hoping to rand this game, and why?
• Which player in this playerlist are you best at reading?

1. Like yesterday. And today and probably tomorrow.

2. Town. Always town.

3. Myself lmao

[Neon]

@Zorvo

I know I’m not a wolf, which means Arete/Arctic/Neon/May can contain all wolves.
Which scares me.

Why the fuck would i ever scare you

I’m garbage lol.

VOTE: Zorvo I’m a pretty petty bitch.

[Neon]

@ElizaThePsycho

i have legitimately never thought of neon as a power player, rather as an LHF

This is the objectively correct take.

[Neon]

@Zorvo

Nah.

VOTE: Zorvo

Self voting is wolf indicative lmao

[Magnus]

Neon, you’re extremely likeable, and that makes you scary through a certain lens.

[Neon]

@Phraze

Hello all.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much will you pocket me this game?

[Neon]

You really should’ve just said

Reason I’m voting Arete and you should to

Oh mai gawd yous suckz

[Magnus]

@Neon

Self voting is wolf indicative lmao

Zorvo’s done it as Town. I can quote this example off the top of my head:

@Zorvo

Heck if you want I can go over first.

VOTE: Zorvo

(He also self-voted on the first day, but this vote was after he borderline confirmed himself, and it led to his death.)

[Prisma101]

Are you actually mafia?…

[Magnus]

I’m playing a bit. And now I have to stick with it, or else I’ll be nightkilled N1 in every world.
This way, paranoid evils might go “hey, let’s keep them alive. Maybe they’ll be executed.”

[Magnus]

@Arctic

VOTE: May
you are being put in the naughty chair. whether you are mafia or were trying to reach for that read on eliza in an honest attempt to get the game going is tbd

Arctic/Zorvo/May triangle. Keeping in mind.

[Neon]

@Magnus

Neon, you’re extremely likeable, and that makes you scary through a certain lens.

I’m also like. Really bad at mafia lmao

[Neon]

I’m sure many people have done it as town.

Is anti town. Your either a wolf or a willager. Either way i happily murder you.

[Arete]

wheee I’m here very briefly before I sleep

@May

I don’t know why the brain machine won’t give Arete the same credit for doing something quite similar, but it won’t, so that’s how things are.

I kinda think this is a villagery sentiment from May – like ‘I know on an intellectual level that this is a bad read but I Feel Like it’s correct’ is a very relatable sentiment

@Zorvo

My entrance post was in mention to the prior person who spoke last (Magnus)
There are multiple players on the playerlist.

So for the chances of both to occur with both being W/W (me and Magnus) you would know is low.

this logic makes no sense though because you could have just … lied … about why you chose Magnus [or intentionally timed your post to be after his]

@Zorvo

Forced joke? That isn’t how I Interrupted that.
Can you not make a read?

…yes, me saying “my reasoning for thinking this [i.e., that you could be w/w with Magnus] was that it was already an incredibly forced joke and I know you often go in for the idea of ‘I’m going to have over-the-top interactions with my partners to look unaligned,’ which made me think you could be doing that with Magnus” was a read.

[I am assuming you mean ‘interpreted’ not ‘interrupted’ although it’s, uh, your own post that you’d be interpreting]

@Zorvo

Issue is though, this is not how I interrupted it.
There wasn’t an indicate of it, or at least I didn’t see it.

regardless of your alignment, if you genuinely somehow can’t tell that (in response to a wolfclaim) “oh ok thanks for clearing that up” is a joke I don’t know what to tell you

I almost think it could be true just because it’s so ridiculous of a thing to claim although I’m not sure that you thinking that was a completely serious deadpan interpretation of a post claiming wolf is a good look lol

@Zorvo

Doesn’t work. I’m not voting you cause your voting me I’m voting you for everything I’ve stated in my case against you that you are reading, don’t try me.

Literally every part of your case on me is about me pushing you

@Zorvo

@Arete

I also struggle to believe that Zorvo believes that I’m so familiar with his meta that I would automatically know the exact turns of phrasing he’s used in his most recent wolfgames

You are a person I’d expect to read up on this kind of stuff.

‘ah yes, I, a person with a full time job, have just joined a mountainous game, in which I am actively pushing for a 100-post cap because otherwise I expect to struggle to find the time to play. time to go read up on every recent game on the site so that I have a good grasp of people’s meta.’ (this is sarcasm in case you can’t tell)

@Zorvo

You saying how you haven’t read any of my previous meta nor fully read the setup and remembered it or didn’t even check after I self voted?

I read (ish) the setup when I signed up, I either didn’t notice or forgot the selfvoting rule. I didn’t check after you selfvoted because I’m used to only playing games where selfvoting is allowed so it didn’t occur to me that it wouldn’t be.

I have read previous meta of yours from … months ago? I have read past games that we’ve played in? I in fact read part of Starcraft LyLo? But, again, I am not going to go read the entirety of the past several games on this site to prep for this game.

@May

I agree with Zorvo, Arete’s pinging a bit wolfy to me, VOTE: Arete

I think that your wolfread on me is ~plausibly a thing you believe but that you don’t believe Zorvo’s case is meaningful

and it’s weird that you’re acting like it’s a contributing factor to your read when it’s not

@Prisma101

I decided on voting earlier than intended

@Prisma101
why did you change your mind?

@Arogame123

Before I leave, I must ask, are you town @Arete?

Yes

@Arogame123

@mollylikesorigami

i think she’s pretty clearly an alt of someone who knows how to play the game, and she’s still been sitting on the side and acting like a new player who has no idea what to do

ngl I vaguely thought they were a katze alt until they alluded to knowing May

@mollylikesorigami

…i

lmao

the derp clear is so tempting here

I kinda think this is a real thought that molly really believes

@otterpopd

to be serious for a moment: may usually slides by in a lot of discord games by inflating their word count to appear town. I think that that’s happening here, but admittedly idk their forum playstyle that well because again this is my first game

@otterpopd
can you quote the posts that gave you that impression?

@Arogame123

Please protect Prisma at all costs lmfao!!!

I don’t want to rain on this parade here since they still have a good chance of being town from pure stats but I don’t really think this is townie, this is the sort of thing people read newbies as ‘pure’ for when they’re just honestly confused regardless of alignment. newbie wolves don’t ask literally all of their new questions in wolfchat and Prisma is definitely new regardless of alignment

ok I’m all caught up now

[May]

Hey Neon, no chance you’re feeling a bit annoyed about randing wolf, and that’s coming across in how you communicate, right? That wouldn’t be the source? Just a thought. It’s not something that was notably present in your opening Starcraft posts, but maybe twice in a row makes it more frustrating… I’d certainly not be happy, that’s for sure.

I wonder who that would indicate partnership with; certainly a train of thought I’d be interested in pursuing if I find further evidence, if only because judging who in the thread is most annoying “for social deduction purposes” sounds hilarious (in theory, probably not in practice).

[Arete]

here are my current reads:

(if there’s no explanation it means I’ve already explained it earlier)

people who have given me some vague even-very-light reason to think they are town (not sorted)

Arctic
mollylikesorigami
May? (I was going to put them in the ‘conflicted’ category but P#199 is a townie thought to have, I think)
Neon (I think they are giving Real Thoughts. I think if they’re a wolf this is probably more likely to be ‘wolf saying things they actually believe except maybe the conclusions’ and I’m willing to give them a spot in the vague townleans pile) (‘arete that’s a bad reason are you just doing this because you didn’t have enough people to put there’ yes but I do think it’s >rand correct)

people who are giving me conflicting signals [as in town-signals and scum-signals]

Zorvo [I weakly think he wouldn’t go all in on pushing me day 1 as wolf – as wolf he tends to really like bussing for “credit”. however his push is also extremely bad and includes examples of, like, outright quoting my words out of context to make false claims that are obviously-false if you look at the context, hence being conflicted.]

people who are kind of wolfy

Eliza

if you’re not on the list it means I have no particular thoughts on your alignment at the moment