Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

[Arctic]

i literally do not see any issue with that post

[Zorvo]

@Arete
You wanna big brain play, vote Molly.

[mollylikesorigami]

…the one with lemon first in vote order in lylo?

[Zorvo]

@Arctic

i literally do not see any issue with that post

I’m done.

VOTE: Arctic

[Zorvo]

@mollylikesorigami

…the one with lemon first in vote order in lylo?

It’s a legacy

[Zorvo]

OMG someone do something what the fuck, May is gonna be ML’ed!!!

[Zorvo]

Y’all are useless

[mollylikesorigami]

i’m gonna stop trying to understand this

[Zorvo]

VOTE: Zorvo

Vote me outta here!
Just end my misery!

[Zorvo]

Help me

[Zorvo]

Someone Help!

[Zorvo]

I need a hero

[Zorvo]

Will my hero help?
@Jarek where are you?

[Zorvo]

You helped me last EoD but we couldn’t do it, this time you have we have a chance to make a difference!!!

[Zorvo]

We can stop an ML this time for sure together!

[Arete]

@Lemonfairy

@Arete

…yes I do??

where??

literally the entire time after flipping on Arctic I’ve been scared that I was right before and he’s just manipulating me into a misexe today because he thinks he can win a cross vs. me in LyLo?? are you even reading my posts?

@Lemonfairy

I remember Prisma’s towncase but it was mostly on how you don’t think they’d have confidence to say they’d vote otter for having “annoying posts” as wolf and something something they weren’t coached

uh

no?

that is in fact specifically not my towncase

here you go :)

@Arete

@Jarek

@Arete

raises hand

I disagree

Okay this is good, why? What has Prisma done in your mind that proves to you they are in fact town? Is it purely the newbie stuff? I personally do not wish to clear someone for that alone any more.

• a lot of their posts, particularly today, have felt like they genuinely wanted to prove themself as town by flipping/expect that their flip will vindicate them. relevant quotes:

@Prisma101

and lastly if in any case i do die today and i am in fact town (no matter how much i say it zorvo will only want it to be fully seen when i die) i want zorvo voted out by the end of day 5

@Prisma101

Vote me but in doing so you are making a mistake as I can guarantee you I am town

@Prisma101

Idfk but if I am executed today I want you dead by tomorrow

@Prisma101

All that will do is prove zorvo is wrong and ofc i dont get the satisfaction of either dying by mafia or winning this game but all rhat i ask is if i am voted out I highly suggest you vote zorvo out for his baseless reads (which I admit is a baseless reason to vote him out)

@Prisma101

If i am voted out because of zorvos reasons against me (not voting arete and ignoring his wall post for one example) then vote him out d5 for the reason that all proof he has provided on people is dumb (like clearing you literally just because you sheeped him)

@Prisma101

Well actually its not defeatist its me saying im willing to die to prove zorvo is wrong about his statement that all his reads are right

• when I’ve tried poking at their reads, I’m not going to say that their thought process was sound, but I think it was real. relevant quotes:

@Prisma101

@mollylikesorigami

they seem barely conscious of the fact that town wins by killing wolves.

I know thats how we are meant to win but i cant provide good enough proof against someone and if i agree with someones reads i don’t know how to explain why and everyone still continues to ask even after i say I don’t know and give as much reason as i can

@Prisma101

@May

My thoughts on Otter are I don’t really know how to read her in this format. I have enough trouble reading her in a Discord format (last game we played together I went back and forth and back and forth, convincing myself she as both certainly town and scum at different points in the endgame).

May says they have played before so we can use that to better read otter

@May

but that could equally be the result of a wolf not wanting to make subjective calls or a townie in an unfamiliar environment

They also give reason as to why it could be wolfy or towny due to it being their first time on the site

P.s. I probably explained it horribly

@Arete

can you elaborate more on why you think May saying those things makes them more likely to be town? I’m trying to understand your thought process

it’s okay if your reasons feel ‘silly,’ or if you aren’t sure about something, just try to explain what you’re thinking as honestly as you can

@Prisma101

Idk how else to explain it

@Arogame123

And while we are on that topic, if you had to lean Arete one way or another, what’s your feeling about Arete? Likelier to be town or mafia?

@Prisma101

i dunno ig neutral but i dont think thats an option

• some of their early concern about not looking sus was kind of “pure”/not something I would expect a wolf to double down on in thread

@Prisma101

@Arogame123

So if you had the opportunity to kill someone today, it would be Zorvo or Otter?

Im not sure

I voted zorvo and if I change to vote otter that will give zorvo more reason to suspect me

@Prisma101

Because in every “we must vote out one of these people” i have been an option and since otter has a lot of votes if i change now or even later to vote otter it will look like im just trying to get rid of as many people as possible

I plan to change my vote if anything says otter is mafia more than what has been provided

@Prisma101

Because zorvo doesn’t have a lot of reasons im a wolf and if he finds more then he can make you all vote me despite me not being wolf

• I kinda think that if they were a wolf they would give up on the Zorvo push by now, it’s pretty clear no one is going to listen – feels more like something they actually believe in than something they’re pursuing opportunistically (tbc this is a weaker point)
• I think them expecting to die overnight was real/not made up
• the reasons to suspect them mostly kind of suck and if they were a wolf there would be better reasons (this is not really something I believe)

@Lemonfairy

I do feel kinda wronged to be getting scumread for what I think is me being very towny

why do you feel wronged if you think me and Arctic are definitely just pushing agenda against you?

@Lemonfairy

vote me if you want, idc

pretty sure that in fact you do care

@Lemonfairy

I think you could be w/w with Prisma so you not pushing Prisma as a sacrifice kind of didn’t really make you any townier

you can’t just ignore half of my point and act like you’ve countered it, that is not how anything works

@Lemonfairy

it’s more that it felt like you didn’t care what alignment I was more than anything and just wanted to push me for reasons that I think are bad

me: actively trying to engage with the people who townread you in case they have good reasons
me: actively engaging with you all day to try to get you to actually Be Villagery
me: continuing to treat you as a Potential Villager just in case you’re a town who’s decided to randomly … make up false things to push me with for some reasn

you: ‘arete doesn’t care what alignment I am. this is definitely a real thought and not just something I’m saying to discredit their push on me’

[Zorvo]

C’mon Jarek where are you?

[Prisma101]

…? arent self votes still invalid?

[mollylikesorigami]

i literally just won a wolf game by mling a villager who was getting correctly townread all game and then posted nonsense in an eod, so i might be a little biased against pushes of the “this player is freaking out at eod” nature, like what arete’s saying about lemon here, but

[Zorvo]

@Prisma101

…? arent self votes still invalid?

Why is this the only thing you have to say.

HOLY FUCK

@Arete

THIS IS TOWN???