Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

no i forgot about that :skull:

Sorry, but executions are the only power town has, especially in this game. voting not to use it only benefits mafia. Why would you ever vote no exe as town? I don’t understand.

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because society

back in the day i knew a guy called BlueLance who refused to execute unless town PRs gave info
(the only info PR was tracker)

Explanation for vanity vote is that I was in the thread like twenty, forty minutes to EoD, maintaining my nonsense vote on Jarek (I think Jarek is probably town, their reaction to it seemed townie, I just know Jarek as a player who’s quite skilled when they work under pressure, so I wanted to provide some of that).

I fully intended to make an actual judgement on an actual wagon later. And then suddenly I wake up and it’s past EoD already. This was confusing to me at the time, and now I know why (I am sick).

Bad vote bad move I wouldn’t have made it were I in complete control of my actions and it was antitown. But unfortunately there are problems syndromes about and those 20-40 minutes were simply not mine to play mafia with

admittedly this no-exe vote is out-of-character from what I know of aleph so i get that
but you don’t know aleph
so

can you explain your thought process in more detail here

Like when you saw the post voting me that you didn’t like, what did you think

also (separate question) what is your read on me :wowee:

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Voting to not execute anyone gives a 0% chance to execute wolf while wolf have a 100% chance to kill town. voting to execute gives a flat percent chance to execute wolf no matter who it is, while wolf still has a 100% chance to kill town. voting not to execute is just objectively incorrect as town. it’s not making an effort to find wolf at all. I can know antitown play without knowing the player

Shorter so i dont quit reading part way?

is

thus, it’s antitown behavior

or to put it another way: Wolves will always kill townies. Townies will not always kill wolves, but always has a chance to. if we want to win, we have to keep taking that chance, so not executing is objectively incorrect.

can you walk me through your thought process for thinking it’s specifically mafia-indicative, as opposed to being a really bad play from a villager? (tbc I’m mainly asking this to figure out your alignment)

mainly I thought that this logic was fairly self-evident, so anyone actually taking the no exe option has gotta be maf. after explaining it twice i’m not so sure anymore, since y’all don’t necessarily think the same way

I definitely agree with ‘no-exeing bad’ and ‘people should realize that no-exeing is bad’ I’m just not confident in ‘therefore only mafia would suggest to no-exe’

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i felt like it was litearlly just sheeping zorvo for no good reason

ehhhh
i feel like you’ve kind of been trying to push people into making reads rather than actually making reads
whether or not this is mafia-indicative or not is another question

neither am I, anymore

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why not both

reason I ask is that you’ve been making reads that semi-rely on me being town without really expressing anything like that

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as in

both pushing people into making reads and making reads

i have?

shading Otter for sheeping Zorvo onto me only makes sense if you think I’m a villager! (or I guess if you think it’s a really incompetent bus)

+ you said you expected me to die overnight, and that the Neon kill is probably Zorvo’s fault, implying that either you think Zorvo is a wolf who pushed for a weird nightkill, or that Zorvo is being kept alive to tunnel me (I was pretty sure you meant the second one based on the fact that you didn’t seem to be pushing Zorvo)