Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

Arete is a good vote.

I am once again asking for Phraze to explain literally any of her reads :joy_cat:

thank you for reinforcing my theory

Uh what

Update after rereading that I realized what it meant

I remember thinking Magnus looked better out of the exchange with Arctic. So Arctic sus.

Arete ask questions but seems to be just poking randomly. Or maybe I should read them again in case I missed something.

Aleph, no actual commitment to anything on D1 besides to vote sleep in a mountainous.

Otterpopd was 1 of 3 wagons besides Zorvo and Magnus, IIRC. But Zorvo said might be town. And I think Zorvo town (for now).

I remember Lemon and May were GOAT in the last game I played with both. Good memories~

I need to remember what other things I was thinking. I CBA to read D2 but I will~!

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appreciate the attempt at an explanation

bad read

this level of detail might genuinely be out of Phraze’s wolfrange (to be clear this is because Phraze’s wolfrange is not very wide)

generally my playstyle involves asking a whole lot of questions and sometimes getting useful things out of them, usually if I don’t get something useful I don’t give the full explanation of what I was thinking, but if there’s any specific questions you felt were just random feel free to ask me about them and I can tell you what the purpose was

My thoughts on Otter are I don’t really know how to read her in this format. I have enough trouble reading her in a Discord format (last game we played together I went back and forth and back and forth, convincing myself she as both certainly town and scum at different points in the endgame).

Her interaction with the game is therefore something I just
 can’t really assess right now, especially given she’s not talked about a ton of the people in the game. I’m reserving judgement on her until later, basically, because then I’ll have enough meaningful votes and so on to make a better call.

The best I can give right now is that the Aleph vote seems very policy-y, but that could equally be the result of a wolf not wanting to make subjective calls or a townie in an unfamiliar environment. Her scumread on me feels natural and I don’t really have many thoughts about it - same deal, could be wolfy, could be unfamiliarity with everyone else. I did the same thing to Misty when she invited me here (except she was a wolf).

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I’m popping in having just woke up to say I am glad I was right town-reading magnus that was nice,

Can you point to specific messages?

I kinda feel ike Prisma is a wolf right now based on interactions I have seen I know they are new however so it could be that. Maybe.

You called both me and Magnus wolves originally.

Ok then vote it.

VOTE: Prisma

Hello, just checking in. I do have some thoughts but I’ll be on later tn to go more in depth/real-time since I’m at work rn.

My top town rn is Zorvo and then I also had Jared/Prisma as V with ArĂȘte as leaning V (I want to discuss zorvo more about arĂȘte and read up on his concerns).

I was looking over night and I kind of read through Phrase and what she was doing and with Neon NK I kinda believe Phraze is leaning V as well.

So I want to look at Otter/Eliza/May today as I’m sure this composure of 3 has at least one mafia. I read a bit over Otter’s intro today and it was fine and their “wanting to get better and wanting more time” seems townie but I want to better develop a read there.

I have some issues with May’s EOD but they kind of explained it with how they were feeling.

I have some issues with Eliza’s reads and I feel like she’s more so attacking LHF for reasons that don’t really seem as coherent/fair. Also, their confidence level doesn’t seem to match their strength of push if it makes sense. I kind of get the feeling it’s being overconfident with their strength of read if that makes sense. If other/prisma are V, it also looks significantly worse for Eliza imo.

I also need to look over/read Aleph as I am null there.

I had thought on surface Arctic seemed kinda townie with his case on Magnus, and I know the flip doesn’t look good in theory, but I didn’t feel like arctic wasn’t being “opportunistic” and I also like how he’s trying to mediate ArĂȘte/Zorvo and has that similar perspective.

I see Jarek/Zorvo also seeming to sr Prisma and I remember Magnus pointed out some contradictions from Prisma and how he was approaching others. If you guys can, I’d like to hear your thoughts/reasoning on Prisma and point out to me where you feel like he’s scummy.

The Issue is Aro.

I don’t think Magnus wagon was pure and I don’t think it’s Otter that’s the wolf.
I find them the least likely wolf out of Otter/Arete/Arctic/Prisma.

I feel the wagon was wolf motivated and I purposely joined it to try and make others also see it.

Although I’m taking it that it didn’t work and people are just chowing down on the CW wagon when it can easily be TvT competing wagons.

And then lemonfairy/Molly are null for me as well and need to look more in there.

If I’m not mistaken, lemonfairy and Molly seemed to be like me and were in “catch up mode.” So I’d like to hear their thoughts and opinions on the gamestate/their pov.

I def see where you’re coming from and I had felt otter felt a bit better coming into today tbh and I was surprised when Eliza was pushing on them for the reasons she stated, which is why I’m looking more at her today as well.

I also remember a lot of people seemed to like otter from yesterday and didn’t want to go there except a few. I had seen a post from Molly that I agreed with didn’t look good for otter but I thought their entrance today was good.

I did see Arctic kind of buddy up to Eliza in liking the otter push so with those people in “null/poE” pushing otter, it also makes me want to steer away from otter more.

I also do agree with you that there is likely at least a mafia on Magnus’s wagon and I do like how Otter has also approached the theory of a mafia sitting out esp from their pov when they know it’s v/v wagons. That’s also why I liked otter a bit from what they were saying.

What do u think about Eliza? Cause I see a lot of talk on them and I feel that they are scummy.

Talk to me more about prisma/ArĂȘte when you get the chance please!

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

Also from my pov, the otter wagon had at least two townies in Neon/me. I can’t remember the other two but I think if otter is V, mafia would be more likely to not vote there because if otter goes over Magnus, it might look bad for the people that grew the otter cw, so I do believe if there is mafia, it’s more likely either outside both wagons and on Magnus in a world where Otter is V.

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I need to read over some interactions because if I can form some potential non w/w interactions, that will be key to help me sort out this POE and what not.

I remember thinking arĂȘte/arctic may not be w/w based on how arctic was treating arĂȘte to push on/look at Magnus yesterday, but lmk your thoughts on it and if I’m wrong there.

This is also a very dumb read but I kinda think if ArĂȘte is mafia, they might have chosen to kill me last night since I hadn’t done as much to impact the game yet without a big legacy with only several town reads, and seeing how I was right on Magnus, I’d think ArĂȘte would want to kill me before I’m more active/involved in the game.

So that’s also why I kinda think ArĂȘte is leaning V tbh.