Bland & Flavorless Mountainous 15er - Mafia Winnered

[Arogame123]

1. Me/Zorvo/Arctic

2. Eliza for their lack of elaboration of reads, didn’t like their pushes on Prisma/Otter, and their response to me seemed kind off stiff. Hasn’t provided much since SOD when pressured.

3. Maybe Aleph and that’s just because they haven’t done much. I don’t know if u are a wagon so I would have said u as well but I actually kinda liked these questions and I’ll see where u go/how u analyse the data here.

4. I’d like to think I’m not sus because I’ve been trying to keep everyone accountable and get everyone involved in trying to make reads/push the gamestate forward.

[mollylikesorigami]

@Arctic

@Arogame123

Similar to what Molly said, not much depth/follow through with their reads. I also feel like their direction/confidence of their reads doesn’t match up with their pushes if that makes sense

i’m not sure either of these things are particularly AI for eliza
she doesn’t tend to elaborate or follow through with reads very often and her confidence can honestly can be described by two states being “i have no idea what’s going on” and “this person is mafia” which never really correlates to the strength of her pushes because reads aren’t usually black and white and don’t fit well into this

okay

but is it normally like

“if i only read eliza’s d2, i would know literally 0 of her d1 reads” bad

[May]

@Zorvo

1)You or Aro

I appreciate the vote of confidence. Why do you think I’m more likely to be nightkilled over players who have been actually contributing to the game (sans Aro, who you’ve mentioned).

@Zorvo

2)If Arete is being voted then him, if not then Eliza.
3)Arete if no Wagon, other then that maybe Arctic but not sure.

Arete’s not being voted, for the record. Do you think Eliza is potentially partnered with Arete and Arctic, the two you’ve mentioned? Do you think those two are partnered with each other? I think you’ve answered this before, but they say you haven’t taught something until you’ve repeated it five times.

@Zorvo

4)Eh. Maybe? But I don’t really care.

Now that’s the Zorvo I know. It was a shame having you gone during Starcraft, since the fact that you did care about dying made it harder to thunderdome you.

[Arogame123]

Lemon stated that they had them as a town read and they expected them to die but then also stated that they’d want them as a wagon, so I was confused by that

[Arogame123]

Ok im dumb, May is a wagon lol. So forget that. I’d say in addition to Aleph, maybe lemon then, but not sure I’d want them “executed.” I just want more pressure on their slot to get more I suppose.

[May]

@Arogame123

1. Me/Zorvo/Arctic

Do you think Zorvo would likely be killed because of his reads, or because of others’ reads on him, or a combination of both?

@Arogame123

2. Eliza for her lack of elaboration of reads, didn’t like her pushes on Prisma/Otter, and her response to me seemed kind off stiff. Hasn’t provided much since SOD when pressured.

Taking Eliza being a wolf as a given, how do you think her buddies are treating her? Do you think they’re bussing, soft defending, hard defending, ignoring the wagon… you don’t have to answer specific players, just in the abstract.

@Arogame123

3. Maybe Aleph and that’s just because they haven’t done much. I don’t know if u are a wagon so I would have said u as well but I actually kinda liked these questions and I’ll see where u go/how u analyse the data here.

I’m the best questionasker out there, I’d say. Nobody could rival my questions. Arete is Nothing in comparison.

@Arogame123

4. I’d like to think I’m not sus because I’ve been trying to keep everyone accountable and get everyone involved in trying to make reads/push the gamestate forward.

Others’ answers to question #1 would agree.

[Arogame123]

Hmm fair, but I’d assume you wouldn’t want us to be “wagoned today” based on the current town reads you hold lol

[Arete]

am back, not caught up, am probably catching up in realtime rather than with a single wall since I’m nowhere near cap + it’s faster this way, ping me with anything Urgent

aret aret

[Arogame123]

I’m starting to think if I’m wrong in my town reads, it could possibly be in Prisma/Phraze. But that would be pending flips within my POE and how the game develops.

I just feel like a lot of people from my poE are town reading arête as well in a way that doesn’t feel like a potential mafia town reading their partner.

If Eliza flips town, I’d need to reconsider a lot but I still believe she has a high chance of flipping mafia.

[Lemonfairy]

@May

What do you think an Arete nightkill would say about the gamestate, do you think? Would that significantly change any particular reads of yours? Same goes for an Arctic or Aro nightkill.

Arete NK would mean gamestate is probably fine and I’m overthinking again by trying to find deepwolves when there aren’t any
Arctic NK kind of the same as Arete ig
Aro NK idk, I’d expect less but wouldn’t be shocked (might look at Arete/Arctic more)
I honestly have not read enough to understand the gamestate in its entirety and/or notice any relations between any of the people above and other players for their NKs to affect other reads

@May

Why do you think Prisma’s currently not a wagon, given so many people appear to wolfread them? Do you think that’s influenced by wolves?

maybe
I was kind of nursing an Aro/Prisma association read but didn’t say it b/c didn’t think it was super solid but D1 interaction from Aro’s end felt like it could be w/w or pockety
I kind of liked a few of Aro’s posts after that so idk what to think anymore

@May

Have fun in the iso mines.

thanks
I probably won’t

@May

You heard it here first, Lemon is not sus, she’s Lemon.

yes

[Lemonfairy]

I wouldn’t push for it but if a flashwagon pops up, I might be tempted into voting amid the chaos

[Arogame123]

I think if Eliza is mafia, he also has a high chance to die because of that, but I’d mainly say a combination of both as I just mentioned. If Prisma is mafia as well, it def makes sense but that’s kind of where my thought process is. More so bc of how much he has gotten tr in my eyes.

Abstract, I’d think her partners aren’t doing much to save her and might be in a position where they don’t want to hard defend her I feel like especially as how the game has gone. I won’t say “hard bussed” either but more so lack of interactions and not much defence I’d say.

Lolol, well I’m excited to see what you’d come up with then!!

[Lemonfairy]

[Arogame123]

Sheesh, well I’d advise against flash wagons lol.

[Lemonfairy]

time for me to return to lonely ISOlation

[Arogame123]

@Arete thoughts on current wagons? And what do u think about Eliza rn?

[Arogame123]

Oh lol, well did u find where I discussed more about otter?

[mollylikesorigami]

1. maybe just arctic? idk i almost never hit saves as doc

2. eliza lol

3. maybe lemon? i’d feel a little bad just for ganking her right in the middle of her catchup

4. i think i’m fairly villagery rn but that’s never stopped anyone lol

[Arete]

@Arogame123

A couple of things that I like from Arete is how they are handling the pressure on their slot from you, in that they don’t seem dismissive/deflective and are attempting to get you on the same page as them, as they are walking through their thought progress/reads to help u out. This kind of reminds me of Arete’s treatment of Cobalt in our game. Which was t/t btw lol.

ok to be honest you’re being way too charitable to me, I’m mostly just making fun of him

[Prisma101]

me probably
zorvo ig
idk maybe arete?
idek its up for you to decide