Blood on the Forums XX - Mathematician’s Hell - Evil Wins - 3/10

it looks like i found the pixie

There is no noble ping. (I am aware of.)

oh my GOD i remember this
that was my first clocktower game EVER and i got demon TWICE

wasn’t it Lil Monsta?

oh right
i pulled spy twice and you guys put the demon on me like all game

Tempted to believe Litten’s atheist claim right now.

This is blatently false I feel.

You do realize that Magnus is the storyteller right?

/Nominate @Magnus if he hasn’t been nominated yet.

Litten claimed aethist very early on.

i hardclaim aesthetist

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We have.

wdym

Because I just thought if this on the spot; If it’s an atheist game, the storytellers are evil, if it’s not, we’re good

In either case if we get executed we’re not saving ourselves with the scape-goat

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but we could totally be lying to you

:nerd:

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Ah good.

I don’t see how he’s the optimal execution just because we can’t find something. We probably will figure something out too.

The thing is, I’m not so sure Litten would try something like this if he’s evil.

Can a scapegoat even die in place of the storyteller in the case that the storyteller gets executed?

We were talking about noble ping there iirc

Oh. Oops.

If it’s an atheist game I can do whatever I like

But otherwise it’s uncharted territory and it’s just safer to say no :slight_smile:

If he’s actual Atheist, we lose nothing by executing him as he’s virtually a VT who just knows that we have a different win condition. Executing him as well means we don’t execute any other good characters who learn info at night, so we can get more info and solve this way

If he’s not actual Atheist, he’s pretty much a Minion. In this case, I don’t think I need to explain why executing a Minion d1 is good, espicially when Scarlet Woman and Meze are on the script.

I’m not too familiar with Litten, but regardless this play isn’t anything special.
As I mentioned at the very start of the game, any script with Atheist in it, you’ll pretty much always get an Atheist claim day 1, either from the actual Atheists or from a minion.

Also in case you or anyone else asks, I’ll explain in full detail:
I’m also ignoring Drunk-Atheist possibility because (as I mentioned) it’s incredibly stupid. On a script like this, with Vortox, Marionette, Drunk, Puzzlemaster, Legion and Vigormortis, solving for Drunk Atheist is already rough. But combine this with the fact that we have base 0 outsiders means that Drunk Atheist has to come from Balloonist (extremely unlikely) or Sentinel (which is like borderline taboo I think for STs to add a Drunk Atheist this way).

inb4 litten is the vigor and we win d1

also me and may used our neighbour whispers on your mom jokes which is why im not talking to him any more today

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