BotF I.I - Hand of Darkness - Good wins

jumping me was the objectively worst move for several reasons but i understand you guys had to make your mind up on a whim so shrug

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I mean

You were for sure never getting Harlot’d so

They probably didn’t want to risk it

did no one tell shark there was an actual lunatic

Also this

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Congrats to Good for winning :slight_smile:

Arctic, sorry for converting you. :frowning: Just seemed like the best choice. You did great throughout the game. :slight_smile:

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Anyway, I uh… should probably run less… of this if I want people to stick with botc instead or writing it off :wowee:

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there were a number of reasons why converting me was not the play, but the main reason (and most dangerous) was that i could not defend myself

i wouldn’t have found it particularly difficult to socially convince the town i was good, but the fact i was politician meant i couldn’t defend myself without making myself even more scumread

so on paper, if i don’t get scumread then yeah, it’s great, but the moment something isn’t looking good, there’s literally nothing i can do about it

there is also the mechanical argument being that i can literally win with wolves so converting me removes the potential teammate

in a way it’s kind of similar to the debate of “do you kill the person scumreading you” (in normal mafia, obviously)

people can make an argument for either case via WIFOM, however if you kill that person then you are no longer going to have that person pushing you which is a major advantage. the same applies to this game, in that not converting me gives you a mechanical advantage, and players can mindlessly debate the wifom aspect but this advantage is permanent regardless of that

i tried to look “good” at the start of the day, but people quickly adopted the mentality that me defending myself = wolfy

which meant i was basically between a rock and a hard place, either defend myself and get called wolfy because “politician would want to die!!!111” or get called wolfy because i’m acting like politician and can’t defend myself

so from a mechanical and social perspective converting me was really quite bad

you guys obviously had to decide this on a whim so meh, not too much could have been done

but going back to the mech/wifom argument, people are always going to talk themselves in and out of “would they convert arctic because it’s unexpected?” and either stance is just as likely to crop up as the other and it’s impossible to predict which, but regardless of which one does, it’s true that you have a mechanical advantage by not converting me, so i think if you at least considered this then you would have made a better choice

i think i personally would have gone for intensify because wolf atlas would probably be kind of obvious, but it’s hard to say

oh also
wazza not shooting there was a huge mistake, that allowed village two shots at the outsiders

what a game tho
i went from thinking i was good to thinking i was evil to knowing i was good to knowing i was evil

ah well
in my headcanon this game ended on day 3

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WELL DONT WORRY GUYS GUESS WHICH BOTF IS NEXT OH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT IT’S ULTRA FISH BUCKET

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i wasn’t the best choice but i had days to think about it and you had like an hour so don’t worry

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Well tbf

This game always went to D4 because both demon and sw were alive

oh yeah

very fun day 1 for me
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Oh my god I was laughing so hard at this

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Things still break at 10k rip

Will see what i can do about that, if anything

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This made me laugh hella hard btw lol

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I’m glad misty was actually evil otherwise I would have been the only evil this game who actually had to try

why lol
did you know i was claiming atheist

Yeah i was skimming along

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Final note

Yeah Psychopath sure does live up to the meme it is

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