BotF XVI - Calm Before the Storm - Shattered Futures [Starseekers Win]

[YoubutWorse]

i dont think thats true?

[YoubutWorse]

@Bellatrix

[Magnus]

@Mistyx

it’s marluna no dashii eliza pit hag jarek cerenovus

This means Atlas was perma-poisoned and Squirrel’s info is true.
Which… we can’t easily verify.

[Wazza]

If it is the case, we need to exile Jake

[Wazza]

I know this may seem like I’m saving my own ass but I think we’ve all seen Amelia ST and if Jake is evil, we’re getting punished

[Magnus]

@Squirrel2412

both minion characters are in the same half of the alphabet

nobody selected an evil player N1
(or N0 if you’re a nerd)

The former statement is false.
The latter therefore must be true if Atlas is poisoned.

[Wazza]

Also can 100% confirm that the STs did process my action last night

Marluna either refused or didn’t respond so yeah

[Wazza]

Partnered with Worse and thunderdoming a player

What a life in only 2 days

[YoubutWorse]

besties

[Wazza]

BOTF X: God I hate her fake ass
BOTF XVI: Me and the bestie!!!

@YoubutWorse

besties

[Magnus]

Am I missing something? Only Marluna woke to target a player N1, right?

[Magnus]

Jarek was pushing YBW a lot earlier, by the way.
But Eliza’s pushing Marluna.

[YoubutWorse]

hypothetically yes
but if she was the demon, she wouldntve
which makes squirrels info true

this isnt that hard of a puzzle guys

[Magnus]

That’s it, yeah.

[Magnus]

Here’s the weird part: if Marluna is the Demon, why aren’t her minions trying to defend her? Have they given up?

[YoubutWorse]

jarek is literally openwolfing so that answers that
i belive eliza is trying what we in the biz call wifom

[Wazza]

@Magnus

But Eliza’s pushing Marluna.

this is kinda interesting because Eliza voted me after you showed her that

[Atlas]

why does this mean anything again

[Magnus]

D1:

@Marluna

@YoubutWorse

@Marluna what are your thoughts currently, anybody you SR in particular?

Mist and Jarek.

That math 1 with a philo choosing an in-play character N1 feels too fishy for me.

@Marluna

Than Magnus.
I only remembered the Letter m, after a quick look.

@Marluna

Also the philo can choose to become any good character. The cath: if that character is in-play, (Which the philo chose to become) they become drunk (the original chatacter, not the philo), while the philo is alive.

Usually, if a philo want to become a N1 role, it is common sense to wait with that for N2. So the original character wouldn’t malfunction N1. And they can challenge the other player, if they get different info.

Now. The clockmaker, is a N1 role, so it gets information only n1. (It cannot choose not to use their power N1.)

The philo turning into a n1 role makes this confrontation impossible, because they obviously will get different result. (Remember, the philo made the other one drunk)

An evil player choosing to claim philo, who turned into said role, can discredit an other town player, without making himself looking bad. Making us question an information, which could be essential for us later.

And the Math 1 just support the philo world.

@Marluna

Demon almost never claim spend Artist.
(They usually don’t claim spent role in a SnV game, cause they are free kills against the vortox.)

@Marluna

Hardclaiming seamstress.
Used my ability on Eliza and YBW and got a same result.
Magnus math 1 means, both mine and Jarek’s info can’t be a bogus, so Eliza cannot be a No Dashi.

@Marluna

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

@Marluna

If I believe the CM 4,
The Math 1,
And that you and Eliza are both good.

That means Crich still cannot be the Demon.

(Cause that means that exactly 2 of us are Crichard’s minions.)

@Marluna

So we believe your claim that it’s a Fang gu world.

@Marluna

What if evil team is Magnus, YBw and Eliza?

Is that a possible world?

@Marluna

Because of CM1, it is either magnus or YBW.

@Marluna

Me - Seamstress
Atlas - philo → savant
Jarek - mutant
Chrichard - artist
Prisma - CM
Eliza - Oracle
YBW - Math

Magnus, Myst, squirel.
Didthose three claimed anything publicly?

@Marluna

Squirel savant->mutant->dead claim is…

game-solving, if you believe them.

@Marluna

1 Cere is alive, and made Squirel mad being the mutant. (Only in this case can both Squirel and Jarek be good, tbh.)

2. Squirel is evil, and Demon is probably a Vigor. (Which is still unlikely, because of Jarek’s claim. Altough isn’t impossible but vigor killing a minion with two dead neighbour accomplish too little to worth.)

@Marluna

Eliza No dashi.
Jarek Cere.
Magnus pithag.

What everyone thinks about this one?

@Marluna

Myst lying is unlikely…

And if we assume vortox, Eliza can’t be it. (Because in that case Myst’s juggler 2 would be correct, which is impossible in a vortox game.)

@Marluna

So why an Eliza/Jarek minion
Myst demon

Is not possible?

@Marluna

Why though?

Cm and seamtress got wrong info.

Math

@Marluna

Right.

Also you can change me and Eliza too, and you get the same result.

The deceiving factor should be the savant infos in my opinion.

@Atlas @Squirrel2412 can you tell us those?

@Marluna

Or mostly.
Eliza can’t be No dashi.

I still can be, if my Minion is YBW.

@Marluna

The only thing pointing away from a YBW minion world is her uncontested Math claim.

Which if I am right, was her first whyper with Magnus.

Without knowing what is the Demon be a Math 1 could be in acceptable range, but a Math 2 is just bold, in my opinion.

@Marluna

Yeah.
But jarek was advovating Fang gu.

Why would she want to point us in a different direction, than their minion partner?

@Marluna

Jarek is semi-confirmed evil, at this point.

And even if he isn’t, it almost impossible that both Jarek and Squirel is good.

@Marluna

I definetly was targeted by Wazza.

@Marluna

Yes, I did.

(Ofc, I would have said this, even if I’m the Demon, so it doesn’t prove anything, only just me and Wazza are diff alligment.)

Marluna’s ISO isn’t as good as it seems. A lot of fluff early on, not a lot of reads. Hmm.

[Magnus]

Okay, fine.
VOTE: Marluna
VOTE: JakeTheWolfie