nah its fine
I think CRichard is probably a Minion at the very least. Could you towncase him, because I don’t see it.
uh
everyone continue acting non-suspiciously so i don’t get paranoid
thannks
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I genuinely don’t get why you’re so stressed.
i gave my reasons behind townreading him a while ago
i just think this is more “crich” then it is “crich faking crich”
Outside meta, could you ISO him and explain exactly what you find villagery about his slot?
thats a whole lot of ask from someone who only has the exact opposite read
Votecount
| Nominator | Nominee | # | Voters |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mistyx | CRichardFortressLies | 4 | Mistyx, Prisma101, YouButWorse, Atlas |
| CRichardFortressLies | YouButWorse | 1 | CRichardFortressLies |
| Marluna | ElizaThePsycho | 1 | Marluna |
| Magnus | Mistyx | ||
| Atlas | Marluna | ||
| Jarek | Atlas | ||
| — | |||
| Not Voting | 4 | Squirrel2412, ElizaThePsycho, YoubutWorse, Jarek |
CRichardFortressLies (4): Mistyx, Prisma101, YoubutWorse, Atlas
YoubutWorse (1): CRichardFortressLies
ElizaThePsycho (1): Marluna
Not Voting (4): Squirrel2412, ElizaThePsycho, Magnus, Jarek
I caught CRichard in Love Is War’s endgame, and we caught him in UFO D2 along with Leafia. I have the exact opposite read, I think his behaviour is wolf-indicative. Bringing up information, his past behaviour not making sense with his current worldview in such a way that reevaluation doesn’t answer it, etcetera. Hence why I’m asking you to look at him outside meta to bridge the gap.
well the other host isnt on so nya
What happens if two people on the same account try to post around the same time? Does the account break?
only looking at magnus/prisma/marluna/jarek bc they have all the info that conflics in my mind
now, this is assuming vortox isn’t in play bc of the fact that vortox does eliminate basically all info
Magnus claimed their number to me immediatley and I (believe?) I was their first whisper so they couldn’t have gotten bluffs or anything, and the way they handeld their claim and number felt geunine to me so I think they’re telling the truth, so thats the social part
Mechanically, if Magnus’s info is true (assuming they actually got that number and aren’t just lying about it for various reasons) I think that would imply that one of prisma/jarek/marluna is lying. Mainly because there would have to be a malfunction coming from prisma, (since jarek is claiming Philo-CM 4) and that would satisify the CM 4. In a math 1 world, seamstress info is always legit, because either the philo was poisoned by a no-dashii, making them the malfunction and Prisma’s info correct, or Prisma is malfunction and Jarek recieved correct info. The second world doesn’t work if all the info we have so far is true though, because if both me and Eliza are good (according to Marluna’s info) and there is a clocmaker 4, then after that there can’t really be a clockmaker 4. If we are assuming all the info so far we recieved is coming from good players in the CM 4 world and that no one is intentionally lying, then Jarek, Eliza, Marluna, Me, Magnus, and Prisma are all good players. That leaves absolutely no room for a CM 4, meaning that info from Jarek must be incorrect or somebody is lying. But if Jarek’s info is incorrect, that mean he must’ve been poisoned and that the CM 1 from prisma would be true. The only person who could poison Jarek in a Math 1 world would be atlas as No-Dashii, Eliza couldn’t be No-dashii bc then the seamstress and philo-cm info would be incorrect making the Math 1 impossible
In conclusion, in a math 1 world, Either Atlas is the No-Dashii with Squirrel as a minion (CM1) who poisoned Jarek and got that malfunction, there is a Vortox in play, or one of Prisma/Magnus/Marluna/Jarek is lying.
I’m pretty sure I’m correct in all of this logicial reasoning coming from the world where the math 1 information IS true and were trying to find a way that all of Prsima/Magnus/Marluna/Jarek are telling the truth (bc currently I don’t think thats the case after all this)
Now onto the CM 4 as the definitive true info, meaning Jarek is 100% good and telling the truth
CM 4 would mean that Prisma is either Evil or Poisoned. If we’re assuming poisoned, and that Prisma is good, and that the seamstress sheck was true, then the most we have is a hole where Magnus is (since Magnus is never actually confirmed good, mainly just seems socially good). The only way this world works is if Magnus is esxactly the demon of some-kind, potentially No-Dashii, with minions of Squirrel and Atlas. (otherwise a demon in Misty/Crich/Squirrel/Atlas doesn’t work with a true CM-4). If we don’t assume Prisma is good, then that means that prisma has either Atlas, Eliza, or jarek as a minion/demon. In this world, Jarek is telling the truth and good, and Marluna clears me and Eliza. Marluna is lying then that actually opens up far more possibilites for demon/minion candidates between Eliza and Marluna within Misty/Crich/Squirrel/Atlas
In a world where the CM4 is definintely true, there is no way for all of Prisma/Magnus/Marluna to be telling the truth (unless Vortox but we are assuming the CM-4 is true) because the CM 4, with the other info, would mean Magnus has to be the demon and therefore isn’t telling the truth, I’ve mentioned before i don’t think this is the case, so in the CM 4 world, either Marluna is lying or Prisma is lying (about being CM that is bc in the CM 4 world their info isn’t true anyway).
In a CM 1 world, where Prisma is 100% good, that would mean Jarek is either poisoned/lying. In the world where either Atlas is the No-dashii poisoing Jarek, making Squirrel their minion (like earlier), or Eliza is the No-dashii poising both me and Jarek with Marluna lying about their results bc of the CM1. The Eliza world doesn’t work though because both Jarek and me would be malfunctioning, and that would mess with Magnus’s info making his info false in this world where it should be true. So unless there is an exact team of Marluna/Eliza/Magnus where Eliza is the No-dashii, this world doesn’t work. The CM-1 world then means that Atlas is the No-dashii who poisoned Jarek with Squirrel as aminion. If jarek is evil and lying though, that could still mean an Eliza evil world but instead poisioning Marluna and Atlas, and there would be another evil somewhere else. I believ atlas siad he got mech info though last night, so if that malfunctioned that would mean that the math info from magnus wouldn’t work with Atlas and Marluna, which would mean an Eliza/Jarek/Magnus world
In conclusion bc honeslty I’m confusing myself with this one, if we assume a CM 1 is true, one of Jarek/Magnus/Marluna have to be lying unless exactly Atlas is the No-Dashii who poisoned Jarek. In this world I honestly think that with how Atlas has been playing it would probably just mean that Jarek is evil but jarek is also v good socially so this is a weird one that implicates only Atlas if everyone is good, or just means some people are lying IN THE WORLD the Cm1 is always true
IN THE SEAMSTRESS CHECK WORLD (my brain hurts0 that would mean the seamsterss check info is true and Marluna is good and both me and eliza share the same alginment. Now for worldbuildngs sake I could go into the worlds where me and Eliza are evil but I know i’m good so I’m just gonna count Eliza as conf good in that world as well. In that world, for magnus/Prisma/ and Jarek to all be telling the truth that would mean again that Atlas would have to be n-dashii posioing Jarek bc thats the only world where we get a math 1 and the cm 1 is still true bc in this world the Cm-4 doesn’t work unless one of Magnus/Prisma/Jarek are lying and therefore evil
In conclusion, mainly bc I’ve already gone over the seamsterss check world in the other ones, one of Magnus/Prisma/Jarek are lying or Atlas is the evil no-dashii
TL;DR: There are currently three possibilites I see to explain all of this info
- There is a vortox in play
- One of Marluna/Magnus/Prisma/Jarek is lying about their role and info intentionally (and either hiding their true role or evil)
- Atlas is exactly the No-Dashii with Squirrel as a minion
- A world with the combination of the first two
The third one I honestly don’t see likely. Atlas throughout today has seemed very V and my whisper with Squirrel earlier was very V as well, so I think this is the least likely world.
The fourth and first one both have an equal amount of possibility in my mind bc a vortox info just means oops! all malfunctioning! so there’s not a super good way to know if that’s true. In a vortox world, that would mean that either Eliza/Marluna is evil bc of the seamstress sheck meaning that, in a vortox world, Eliza is the opposite of my alignment or Marluna is lying and therefore likely evil (could also be mutant or keeping their true role hidden ftr in Marluna’s case, but then i don’t see why they’d choose to out it when not prompted). Vortox could still mean that one of Magnus/Prisma/Jarek/Marluna is lying but it also would allow room for them to all be good as well but I’mm still not entirely sure if that is true.
The most likely world to me right now is that one of Magnus/Prisma/Jarek/Marluna is lying. I don’t know and honestly am so tired and don’t wnana think about which one exactly is evil, but personally I read both Magnus and Jarek as more V and towny than the other two. My reads aren’t perfect (as you’ll know you ever played a game with me) but I think that, combined with this mech info and solving, this is the most likely world and means we need to find the evil (or at the very least the liar) between these four.
TL;DR TL;DR: Mech wise to me the most likely world is that one Magnus/Prisma/Jarek/Marluna is lying and I think it would be helpful to us if we tried to figure out who was. Vortox is also still avery possible world and seems very likely atm regardless if anyone in Magnus/Prisma/Jarek/Marluna is lying
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i need a rest so i’m gonna eat lunch then come back to thread feel free to read my logic and see if I accidentally msised anything
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I haven’t read it all just yet, but I’m going to cite CRichard’s claimed Artist information as something you seemed to have missed.
it kinda just says you lot are lying or im the demon
which just so happened to be the conclusion i came to
AHHH i frogot about taht
i think it techincally still fits into what I was speculating though
ok time for lunch actually
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I didn’t need the TL;DR, I just read it through.