BotF XVII: U-Pick Your Poison - D6 - Lil Monsta (And the Evil Team) Wins!

Amelia · January 28, 2023, 2:18am

/nominate CRichard @Host_Account_2

Accusation: I think this has the best shot of being mez rn

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:18am

Why

Zone_Q11 · January 28, 2023, 2:19am

Y’know, this game’s great.
Even in death, I still actively and passively cause paranoia, confusion, and trouble for the opposing faction.
It really is sad that I won’t be able to remember this game a couple of weeks from now.

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:19am

i blame my team

Magnus · January 28, 2023, 2:20am

Hey guys, would any of you know someone available who could replace in?

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:20am

actually i forgot im neutral
i blame town

Zone_Q11 · January 28, 2023, 2:20am

You’re welcome.

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:20am

we could put a top hat and sunglasses on ybw and get her to

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:21am

(no)

May · January 28, 2023, 2:21am

The thing that convinces me of Jake over CRichard is that Jake’s progression of claims goes in a very suspect way, whereas CRichard’s is just… clean and neat. From my interpretation of things, Jake claims Pixie, then has to hastily backtrack when he realizes that he’ll have to cover for the lack of Fearmonger message, then has to retrack and unbacktrack and otherwise track about through the mess of Atlas’s Evil Twin claim. It definitely sounds like someone who didn’t receive any bluffs.

On the other hand, as far as I know, CRichard’s Savant claim has gone remarkably smoothly. Could have been luck, could have been careful planning - I actually want to look more into when and where he first claimed - but I’m not super sure he has time to figure out there’s no good Savant if evil?

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:23am

also

pixie/et

or
savant

JakeTheWolfie · January 28, 2023, 2:23am

Why would I have killed Bella

Bella wouldn’t be the only kill we have to account for. In fact, we would need to consider every demon kill.
Leafia, May, and Bellatrix.
Leafia and May are both juicy kills, as one could lose you the game, and the other had already found one of your evils.
Bellatrix is an odd kill, it doesn’t fit into either of our worlds cleanly. My explanation is that you were already pushing that one of me and CRich were evil, and as such by killing Bellatrix you would be able to more easily coax the town into chainaxing one after the other.

Why am I pushing for the cult

You are claiming potentially puzzledrunk, which will give you an alibi as to why your ability would have failed should a cult not form due to you being a Lleech.

Why would I have not told Nuto who I lleeched

Didn’t you? How would we know that you didn’t? We don’t know what you did or did not say in your whisper to Nuto.

How did I get by by not communicating with Bella, and why is all this more likely, then you, who has done worse

I communicated with Bellatrix once. As a result of that, they either came to believe that I was the Damsel, and guessed me, or we had planned that for clout. Additionally, Bellatrix never communicated with Nuto. Why not? Perhaps an evil player whispering another player does not condemn that player.
Additionally, in posts #360 and #361, Bellatrix whispered CRichard as well. Why does that whisper not count, but the one with me does?

Why are you pushing me during d4, instead of D2

Because I wanted to execute one of Zone/Bellatrix first, as can be seen by the fact that I had pardoned both of you, while executing both of Zone and Bellatrix. I figured that you two would sort eachother out.

You’re trying to push im evil at this very moment, invalidating your argument

Wrong. Look at response #1 as to why you would’ve killed Bellatrix.

As Lleech, I would’ve never killed a known evil player, pushing away a free win

Wrong. It wasn’t pushing away a free win. You could’ve killed at least 3 players on Night 4 and still would have one. This was just the most interesting.

I believe that’s most, or all of them. Did I miss any?

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:23am

you think magnus and jarek did this

Host_Account_2 · January 28, 2023, 2:23am

D4 Votecount


Nominator	Atlas	Amelia
Nominee	JakeTheWolfie	CRichard
Bellatrix	Pardon	Pardon
Amelia
ElizaThePsycho		Execute
Crazynuto
Silviu200350
Leafia	Pardon	Pardon
CRichardFortressLies
JakeTheWolfie	Pardon	*
Zone_Q11	*
May
Caspore
Atlas	Execute	Execute
Kiiruma
Pardon Votes	3	2
Execute / Exile Votes	1	2

Cult Indoctrination


Cultist	Atlas
Bellatrix	Enlisted
Amelia
ElizaThePsycho
Crazynuto
Silviu200350
Leafia	Enlisted
CRichardFortressLies
JakeTheWolfie	Enlisted
Zone_Q11	Enlisted
May
Caspore
Atlas	Enlisted
Kiiruma	*

May · January 28, 2023, 2:23am

Though, thinking back, this is the exact logic that got me through the other BotF I played, but my remarkably smooth, seemingly supported back to early on claim in a Lil’ Monsta game was Dreamer.

Zone_Q11 · January 28, 2023, 2:24am

D4 Votecount


Nominator	Atlas	Amelia
Nominee	JakeTheWolfie	CRichardFortressLies
Bellatrix
Amelia
ElizaThePsycho
Crazynuto
Silviu200350
Leafia
CRichardFortressLies
JakeTheWolfie		*
Zone_Q11	*
Caspore
Atlas
Kiiruma
Pardon Votes	0	0
Execute / Exile Votes	0	0

Cult Indoctrination


Cultist	Atlas
Bellatrix
Amelia
ElizaThePsycho
Crazynuto
Silviu200350
Leafia
CRichardFortressLies
JakeTheWolfie	Enlisted
Zone_Q11	Enlisted
May
Caspore
Atlas	Enlisted
Kiiruma	*

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:24am

obviously, not
i wouldve always killed amelia, rather then getting rid of ONE ENTIRE EXE

if im evil, you, bella, crich being alive is three people needing killing
at best, its a 33/33/33 in f4

why would i make that any worse?

Atlas · January 28, 2023, 2:25am

just proved it wrong

Amelia · January 28, 2023, 2:25am

Mostly because CRich whispered Zone D1 and also was Not the one who was damsel guessed

Zone_Q11 · January 28, 2023, 2:25am

Aw… I was too late.
(Well, to be fair, yours was more complete anyway. Considering the lack of tally and asterisk in the OG VC. That, and the use abbreviated name. Though the last one is more of a preference than a performance issue.)