BOTF XXI: Unkindness, Murder and Storytelling Main Thread GAME OVER

There’s no problem. I didn’t see a benefit in lying to a confirmed teammate.

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I’m not a jerk.

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Hopefully we’ll see you around in future games.

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When I asked about your type and minions I didn’t know you were next. Litten only told me its a vizitor game. You telling me about Jarek being next and rest of the plans were cool though.

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this game is too hard and complicated for me. I can only casually hang around x)

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@Atlas I am sorry for earlier. I was only pretending about the stuff. You are cool

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So I assumed you would’ve been informed about a new Demon jump, hence why I seemed confused during our second chat. That was wrong of me, but in any case I didn’t want you to feel unsure about which living player was or wasn’t the Demon at a crucial juncture because it sucks.

Oh I knew about this

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When the evil team actually pays attention to the mech.

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input eye roll gif here
:3

I think the setup would have been different to led to less clears

“We had a night of no-kills. Slasher confirmed.”

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Hey hey this one is NOT on me, he was GND on my Grim and you changed it while I was asleep

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Anyway script :-1: Vizitor being able to starpass multiple times is probably unintentional but I thought it’d be fine to allow it given how underpowered the Demons here are and spent the rest of the game scrambling to make up for that decision.

Arbitrary Drunkenness and misregistration made it difficult to give information that was of the right level of power, I swapped in Undercover PI for the Thespian in order to have a but more flexibility but in hindsight it’s reaaaaal difficult to give reliable shit to a PI when it’s just like “well what if there was a Suit” “well what if I was Groundskeeper Drunk” and there’s just no way to trace that back to a specific world. And the Vizitor is impossible to track down because, in the absence of moderrors (which were present here), it just jumps to the towniest player.

Info we gave… learning that Kii’s ability doesn’t benefit the Good team was an attempt to make up partially for Martial Artist being in Vizitor, as well as give information that would only be useful later in the game once Silviu was revealed to be the Wannabe of the two, cause the info here is really frontloaded. Leafia registering as a Minion every day was cause I hate the Groundskeeper’s arbitrary Drunkenness and wanted to sweep it out of the way solvingwise, but obviously the amount of arbitrary Drunkenness makes it hard to rely on that info. And Atlas talking to at least two Demons was Litten’s idea. It was funny. And helped solve it was Vizitor, which I thought Good deserved to know.

Hard to create good puzzles here. Obviously my setup choices are somewhat to blame, but I do feel some of the flaws were inherited. The thing I don’t like about Vizitor is that it’s incredibly easy to find the starting Vizitor, cause they have no powers or misinformation, reduced Minions to hide them, and there’s so much starting info here, and incredibly difficult to find the starpass, cause they started out as a Townsfolk and were chosen to convert. And there’s very little way to solve for who the starpass is, at least when the Teacher’s Pet is converted and the Thespian is fake. I thought of this before the game started but was balancing the Grim thinking Vizitor could only starpass once and Groundskeeper only worked if it actually showed up in info. Bad. Mistakes

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a pi who is alive on the final day deserves to get some juicy info too unless evils never had a chance to kill them

The issue was that good was like. Incredibly likely to vote Jarek IF they didn’t learn HOW Jarek was actually Demon, and incredibly UNlikely to vote Jarek if they knew for sure it was Vizitor. Giving good information felt at odds with helping Good win.

Now, I didn’t spend super long thinking about the info, and I’m sure I could’ve been better had I been more creative (e.g. making statements about roles so Atlas learns they’re in-play and nominated), but… I was fuckin tired, man

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Hey I know that character

it’s actually broken

It still looks funny XD

Its beyond hilarious i love it

Anyway a huge majority were made by icibalus herself yeah, so she deserves basically all the credit here,

Night made a few (Local Hero, Wind Nymph, and I think something else I forgor :wowee:), and I made Unseelie

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