Chair of Deception 2 - Game Thread - GAME OVER - UNSHACKLED AND TRICKSTER WIN

[Frostwolf103]

Fortunately that would hypothetically confirms that converting successfully that Luminary/Cult Leader can’t be replaced

[Magnus]

@Frostwolf103

They dont have to use convert ability specifically to convert NE to scum chat and keep that convert ability available

@DatBird

Convert (Night) - Change a player into the Unshackled version of their class. On Night 1 only, you may target two players. If the first conversion attempt would fail for any reason, you will attempt to convert the second without visiting the first. Refunds a use if no players are converted. - 1 Use
Dirty Work (Night) - Target a player with one of the following effects - Infinite Uses

• Intercept - Roleblock a player. Cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.
• Stalk - Determine who visits the target player. You will also learn if they can be converted.
• Hired Goons - Make a player immune to death tonight.

@DatBird

Brainwash (Night) - Change a player into their respective Cult class. If you are the only member of the Cult alive on Night 1, you may target two players. If the first conversion attempt would fail for any reason, you will attempt to convert the second without visiting the first. - Infinite Uses, 1 night cooldown if successful
Ancient Proverbs (Night) - Retrain a member of the Cult into a different Cult class (other than Cult Leader). Neither you or they will be able to perform other actions tonight. If this is used on a player who is not a member of the Cult, you will learn if they would be able to be converted this night. - Infinite Uses

[Magnus]

I guess Dirty Work is possible… retraining the starting cultist would be weird with the infinite 1-night cooldown though.

[Frostwolf103]

@DatBird

Intercept - Roleblock a player. Cannot target the same player on consecutive nights.

@DatBird

If you target the Neutral Evil with your night abilities, they will be added to the scum chat.

It doesn’t disprove my point

[Yamikarp]

Where did you come from?

[Frostwolf103]

@DatBird

• Stalk - Determine who visits the target player. You will also learn if they can be converted.
• Hired Goons - Make a player immune to death tonight.

This also works for Luminary trying to find NE

[Magnus]

I was just copypasting the alternatives.

[Frostwolf103]

Yeah, cult have to rely on brainwashing.

But enough of that.

[Yamikarp]

Damn, Caspore’s entire slot went under my radar.
@Caspore What do you think about pigeon?

[Frostwolf103]

@Caitlin hey so, where have you been?

[Garfooled]

I read Ranta as town. I don’t know how you don’t. The fact that they have a mechanic that would be useful to share with Kiimura is proof enough for me.

[Garfooled]

Wasn’t Wazza just going off of Frost’s theory about you being roleblocked possibly? I don’t remember the whole conversation and it gives me a headache to think about tbh. But it was something about Frost being able to confirm u over mechanics, and Ig Wazza was agreeing with that theory.
We still don’t know for sure if you were attacked right? They were mistaken about Leafia claiming a protective role.

[Garfooled]

My notes from D1 (deleted when my game crashed) say that you and Leafia were friendly early on. It was important enough that I remembered it. I thought either one of you was buttering the other up or you were in the same faction. And from this comment here:

I believed Silviu was Town, I had motives to keep Leafia around

It looks like you’re compensating for the friendliness from D1. You don’t want to be grouped with Leafia now that they might get burned.

Anyone else have thoughts on this? ALSO PHONE WTH DID U GO— I FEEL ALONE, I NEED DISCORD MAFIA COMRADES IN HERE @Caitlin

[Garfooled]

@Yamikarp

Magnus and Jarek were trying to be the “voice of reason” like an hour before EoD.

That’s just reasonable isn’t it? If you think about it, with night abilities we could do a much more informed lynch the next day.

[Frostwolf103]

@Garfooled

But it was something about Frost being able to confirm u over mechanics

No, I wasn’t on Magnus last night, Magnus did went to me and he thinks his action failed.

[Garfooled]

I didn’t mean to suggest u went on them. I meant that u knew something about role mechanics that could possibly confirm Magnus. But I understand how ppl might misunderstand what I said.

[Frostwolf103]

@Garfooled

I didn’t mean to suggest u went on them. I meant that u knew something about role mechanics that could possibly confirm Magnus

Something like that, being attacked by groupscum makes them town 100%, well kinda since most neutral evil roles are immune to their attacks, but Luminary / Cult Leader have to specifically use any kind of night action (besides re-train) on Neutral Evil in order to invite to scum chat and spare use of Convert later.

For Assassin I can agree that Magnus will be town 100%

What I should doing is looking for people who believes Magnus is Neutral Evil, more or less agreeing with Zorvo there.

[Frostwolf103]

The new voting system makes it harder to find votes via search machine.

[Kiiruma]

It does. But it also makes it easier to compile at any time and see who is voting for what.

[Frostwolf103]

@Jarek I do think that occupying Yamikarp may be hit, it does stop the attack but probably doesnt stop the occupy because of Command’s non-attack strongman for Assassin’s roleblock to succeed.

Yamikarp is also voting Magnus here

VOTE: Yamikarp