Chair of Deception 2 - Game Thread - GAME OVER - UNSHACKLED AND TRICKSTER WIN

[Garfooled]

I did respond to that. I half remember how this role list works, I am confused about a few things still. But I think I was referring to the fact that there might still be neutral killing roles. But then I was corrected that there probably isn’t.

[Garfooled]

Ayo-? Literally anyone could say that-

[Garfooled]

Is it possible they’re fake-claiming it to fake n1 immunity?
(take this with a grain of salt)

[thepigeonnyc]

Something does feel real about this
UNVOTE

[guavagudetama]

@Garfooled

Is it possible they’re fake-claiming it to fake n1 immunity?
(take this with a grain of salt)

It’s possible but I feel like that reward is outweighed by the risk of, y’know, almost certain death by vote
Like, the second I processed what Zorvo was saying I knew he was going to get absolutely dunked on and I don’t see why he ever fake claims that
(Or, to be fair, actually claims it. I still don’t really get it because I still probably vote him king in the world where he’s stingray or whatever claiming town)

[Zorvo]

@Garfooled

@Ranta

I think it is less about his personal choice and more about who his wincon aligns with better at endgame.

I agree with this because no matter how much they want to help town, it would be throwing if they didn’t side with their win-con

Ok let me explain something to you.

I bite every night, if wolves even come close to winning, we can vote them off and I can easily still win cause when they die I get even more bites off.

In fact I get more bites from town siding then wolf siding, even though I plan to town side anyway this just proves anyone’s stupid LYLO reasoning shit is just flawed and you will all see how obvious I’m town siding as the days go on if you don’t decide to be mean and vote me off and ruin my chance at winning and possibly make wolves win cause of it.

Think Smart.

Anyway, we can’t keep obsessing over me, we need to focus on other people who’s alignments are unknown.

[Zorvo]

@thepigeonnyc

Something does feel real about this
UNVOTE

Can I ask for your reads outside of me please all you have done this game is talk about my slot.

[Frostwolf103]

@Garfooled

Why would a neut want to counter-claim is the question

So that neut can out that Zorvo is fakeclaiming as evil player.

But that never came. They also know that if Zorvo flips Strigoi, it’s over for that player.

In other words, there is no benefit in doing so because Zorvo speaks the truth and there are players out there who suspects Zorvo is lying, but as I mentioned above then why are those players saying that.

[Magnus]

@Frostwolf103

Four, lets not discount my 3P killer win there.

Which games were these? I was counting your 3P win.

[Magnus]

@Caitlin

@Magnus

I’m specifically asking to hear Frost’s perspective, because he’s randed evil about three times straight so I want to hear v!Frost’s reasoning for why roleblocking a claimed roleblock-immune neutral makes sense over roleblocking someone potentially suspicious, and why this isn’t an agenda-way to maybe shove the jailing out of the way.

Damn this post is like one big logic fallacy. Why would Frost having rolled evil thrice in a row mean they will be evil now too? And like yes you didn’t fully tie the two together but you first mentioned it and then start accusing Frost a bit so it’s clear it was the intention to mention the two in one message

The rolling evil thing doesn’t really matter in this context. Frost’s been randing evil a lot recently, so I want to hear his reasoning from a villager viewpoint. Makes sense to me.

[Magnus]

@Zorvo

I was hoping my case was gonna be very convincing and people would be like “Oh yeah, let’s get this guy in as lord, he’s a safe choice”.

Like a Neutral Lord is the best option.

I personally disagree because the chance of a good player becoming king is higher than an evil player becoming king, and of the limited evils in play this early a couple of them would’ve want to become evil anyway; like any converter, so I have other priorities atm.

[Magnus]

@Frostwolf103

So let me get this straight: You support foreign powers and yet you also believe my view against the support? Isn’t it like conflicting like I mentioned earlier

I don’t think Frost understands my viewpoint. I’m saying I believe Zorvo’s being truthful about his current intentions, but I would expect him to play to his wincon over siding town if it comes down to it, and we shouldn’t make him lord for that reason.

[Magnus]

@Zorvo

Think about it like this, it’s almost LYLO, I bitten all town members, we avoid LYLO because a wolf elimination will be headed are way due to me.

In which case you’ve roleblocked and negated protection on exclusively town members, which… isn’t ideal either.

[Magnus]

@Leafia

Something tells me that the choices for Lord tomorrow in everyone’s minds are going to be either me or Zorvo.

I’m not voting for Leafia to become lord anymore.

[Frostwolf103]

Helluva Boss FM, Nightmare Woods (discontinued) and Pokemon Xros Wars

[Magnus]

I might be overcompensating here, but Frost feels 1f1 for his previous games we’ve played in.

@Frostwolf103

Four, lets not discount my 3P killer win there.

I was counting AI UPick, Helluva Boss and Pokémon Xros. I initially thought this was a slip but I’ll admit I might’ve missed a game.

[Garfooled]

@Frostwolf103

So that neut can out that Zorvo is fakeclaiming as evil player.

What benefit would that give to the neut that counterclaims? It might be advantageous for them if that slot is taken by another player.

[Magnus]

You subbed out of Nightmare Woods D1, does that count?

[Frostwolf103]

Disagree to agree.

[Garfooled]

What I mean is, it’s possible they aren’t even neutral or evil. It’s possible they’re faking immunity to avoid getting converted or whatever the feck.