Chair of Deception 2 - Game Thread - GAME OVER - UNSHACKLED AND TRICKSTER WIN

[Zorvo]

@Ranta

@Zorvo

There is absolutely no reason for Ranta to hide information from all of us and only tell it to Magnus when he said he townread Magnus and is now voting them saying they might be a wolf.

I dont see how this follows at all.

How does it not?
You stated you town read Magnus.
Then you say you think they might be wolf and vote them.
Then you say you want an ally chat with Magnus to tell them something.

[Ranta]

@Zorvo

They also were pretty ready to engage early day 1

Where? I was looking through ISO and I didnt much of activity at all.

[Ranta]

@Zorvo

How does it not?
You stated you town read Magnus.
Then you say you think they might be wolf and vote them.
Then you say you want an ally chat with Magnus to tell them something.

I townread Magnus
I had mech info come up that might suggest they are a wolf.
I asked for private chat to give info privately, to see if its valid without forcing us to claim publicly.

[thepigeonnyc]

After ISOing Karp I am okay with the vote + he seems to be oddly against voting Leafia so potential partners?

@Yamikarp

I like Leafia more

Is an example

@Yamikarp

VOTE: Magnus
If Leafia v Silviu was TvT scum would try to stay out of it imo

Seems really keen on Leafia being town

VOTE: Karp

[Zorvo]

@Yamikarp
If your. Marquess you should claim so we can hard push Pigeon.

If your not that then I’m sticking with my vote on you.

[Leafia]

Look at Pokemon Xros Wars.

@Frostwolf103

No, this just make sense to me.

How in the world does that make sense and what makes you so sure Magnus was attacked?

@Jarek

@Kiiruma

I could do.

Though I do not exactly see much reason in using allies early.

Allies me and someone else I have some stuff to share

Not Jarek. Me and Zorvo would be good I think.

Maybe Magnus if you don’t want a neut in the chat.

@Frostwolf103

I have no idea if a townie got healed, or attacker got roleblocked or just trolling with us town to descend morr into chaos so they can take advantage to convert someone later on.

Then why assume your world needs to be correct?

@Jarek

I’m the butler and I used it on them, I’m roleblock immune so I definitely didn’t get stopped

Legitimitely had to check the butler role since I remembered it not being able to vote yet Jarek was voting yesterday. I guess it’s the BotCC’s butler that can’t vote.

@Jarek

It didn’t feel important to say because there’s plenty of reasons for a N1 no death and I was going to block them again tonight but town is dead and we need something to talk about

So you’re claiming you could block them again?

[Jarek]

@Leafia

So you’re claiming you could block them again?

I checked because of this question and it says I can’t on consecutive nights and that makes this role even more shit and useless than I thought

[Magnus]

@Wazza

Alright I’m inclined to believe what Frost is saying is true due to my role

Which part do you believe?

@Zorvo

@Magnus

I feel like I’d be scumreading myself if I was someone else here. Interesting.

Oh? Why did you say this?

I wasn’t really posting anything substantial, I was moreso posting as though I cared more about being townread, which is something I’m decent at picking up when others do it and, apparently, when I myself do it.

@Zorvo

Now I’m not saying I don’t do this as town but I make posts like those more often as wolf then not.

This ties into the previous statement, yeah. Pinging an inactive player counts for free brownie points, so evils do it all the time.

@Zorvo

@Magnus
What your reads looking like?

I’ll come back to this. I will note that if you read my ISO like you said you did, you should have a general outline from my opening D2, but I can take a minute.

@Leafia

@Ranta

It means that I have mechanical info to suggest magnus is wolf

What is it?

@Ranta

Can you allies me and magnus

I’m assuming it’s not a hard redcheck.

@Ranta

I asked for private chat to give info privately, to see if its valid without forcing us to claim publicly.

As backed up here.

@Jarek

If the attacker got roleblocked it’s Karp I’ll just up and say it I don’t give a fuck

Validation.

[Magnus]

@Magnus

I personally think there’s a wolf between Leafia or Frost, and I don’t think the Silviu wagon was pure. There’s likely a wolf in the nonvoters as well… I believe Zorvo’s neut claim, but he shouldn’t be crowned imo. I’m subconsciously filing Yamikarp and Creature into the same pool, but either could be a hit. A majority of Wazza, Jarek, Kiiruma and Guava are starting good.

I kinda wanna pressure Garfooled for some reason?

I could flesh this out. It was adapted from my journal.

[Leafia]

@Jarek

I checked because of this question and it says I can’t on consecutive nights and that makes this role even more shit and useless than I thought

Inoticed that too which was why I asked. I find it a bit villagery that you doidn’t just reply with a yes here.

[Leafia]

Heading out so good night everyone.

[Wazza]

The fact you were attacked and roleblocked by assassin because someone saved yoh

[Wazza]

I have mech info on the fact they’re probably good if I am to believe what frost says, it all fits together ngl

[Magnus]

In which case I have been vanillaised. That’s actually not terrible.

[Gorta]

@Magnus

Flip-flopping reads is, more often than not, a sign of a villager changing or not having made up their mind, than of a wolf forgetting their previous reads. I think evils tend to play more cautiously than that.

not always true

[Gorta]

also I’m semi here for like 30 minutes than it’s bed time

[Gorta]

I stayed up semi late and slept till 6 PM or so

[Magnus]

@Gorta

not always true

@Magnus

more often than not

I don’t think we’re disagreeing.

[Kiiruma]

I think Ranta is slightly towny and I’m not changing that perspective for now from what has occurred, however, I do distrust Magnus and think Magnus has evil equity.

[Zorvo]

For the record.
I don’t think Ranta is ever a group wolf with Pigeon but I think they can be NE.