Chapter I - The Jutting Watchtower - Red Burns (Night 3 - 17 Remain - Thread 1)

Maybe but this is really weird

Would somebody like to claim using an action on me or Atlas that would do this? If someone can restore limited-shot actions then I’d also appreciate that being used on me because I have no clue what happened

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Light town again I think

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That’s an excellent claim for future games. If I don’t have any reads to give, or if I don’t want to give any reads, I can just say I have a post restriction that prevents me from posting reads.

Being in the grave.

Nice cover, wolf. :joy_cat:

Impossible challenge.

Must be a villager.

…Be the change you want to see in the world?

At this point, I think she’s =rand. She’s legitimately doing NOTHING. She screamed at Frost for a bit and guava hard townreads her, I guess.

Well, the “forgetting” part could be explained by the read being fake, I suppose? But I see what you’re saying. I’m conflicted on Wisdom.

Silviu has done nothing as of late, which is closer to his usual meta.

I genuinely forgot that beancat existed.
Probably a bad sign?

I honestly don’t know why wolves would want to kill a town anticlaim, that’s the thing. Actually… how does town anticlaim make any sense at all? Wolves are never going to claim their wolf roles, so it’ll never work on them… unless it’s a lie detector of sorts, but I don’t think beancat described her ability in that way.

That’s the thing, I don’t see why they would. They’re wolves, lol.

Scorbunny’s role confuses me. I’ve given up on thinking about it.

I might as well say that they tried to cop me last night, but they weren’t able to get results, because they were turned insane. I’m now in the neighborhood with them and Sadbi. They can’t check me again, because I’m in their neighborhood, and they can’t target in the neighborhood. The neighborhood doesn’t even have 100 posts at the moment, but the flavorcop result is where Scorbunny’s clear on Sadbi comes from. (I’d explain how exactly it’s a “clear,” but Scorbunny would likely do a better job of that.)

They can be a wolf rolecop. The lack of solving in the neighborhood (it’s a very depressing place), and the fact I don’t understand how the role works, could indicate this. But people who seem to know Scorbunny better than me have defended them, so I haven’t pushed there more.

I get the impression a lot of people would be grateful.

TMI.

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I kinda want an update on that now.

I genuinely don’t think their reads being weird and their posting seeming “lost” is AI from them. The biggest thing against them fmpov is that I think a lot of other players are town, and there’s also the whole claim fiasco, but that part has been resolved. This is why I’m conflicted.

VOTE: Cassandra

Not Voting (6): Silviu200530, Scorbunny, beancat, Jaiden, Sadbi, min

So you’re conflicted on Wisdom.
And instead of trying to resolve the slot, you’d rather force a tie on a slot which hasn’t exactly shown much at all?

@Kiiruma Can you summarize what you know about Cassandra? L.una shares your wincon, apparently, but what about her?

I’d rather not kill it if it’s town. Cassandra should never flip town.

I’m willing to “resolve” it if other people want to, I just think it makes more sense to vote for the slot that’s ~always a wolf here first. I mean, look at that ISO.

We share a hood.
Based on my class card it seems that Cassandra somewhat works with me and somewhat doesn’t.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cassandra is a cult member and ancient spirit (Friend - Ancient spirit. Enemy - Cult)

Beancat’s role doesn’t make much sense to me while I consider this.

Yes, this makes sense for the cult to have. But… I don’t see why wolves would trueclaim, which means I don’t see what place a town anticlaim has in the setup. Unless they were all given towny-seeming roles, which shouldn’t be the case. I could see a town lie detector being in the setup, but that isn’t what beancat claimed. I called that claim towny before, but now I’m reconsidering it, because it doesn’t really make sense to me.

I think I figured it out. She’s probably in your classcard because you’re the town cop (of sorts). She is the wolves’ method of making sure you don’t obliterate their team. They get to see who you’re targeting while she’s around, and she can also be used to mislead you. It’s a balancing measure meant to ensure that you can’t just lie low and then come in with like 5 clears in the lategame.

“Why would the setup have a town cop that the wolves immediately know the identity of?”
Town has to figure out they must get rid of Cassandra, while wolves don’t have to kill the cop immediately while they can still mislead them. I assume this was the intended dynamic. And, well… it’s clearly worked so far.

Sabi will hate me for this but is there any chance that either or both of Scorbunny/Sabi are wolves?

I don’t think Sabi and Guava have to be aligned, and I don’t necessarily think one is town and one is wolf, but the fact that Guava knows who enters the contest and they choose the prizes to put in the pool, given who has entered and won so far, makes me think Guava is town but leaves me with nothing on Sabi other than social reads.

Both roles being wolves would be very weird, imo. I feel like this mechanic would be on a single wolf role if it was meant to be wolf-controlled (though maybe it’s incorrect of me to assume this). I’m leaning toward V/V or V/W at worst.

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Sabi was going on earlier about how they’re towny for picking min and me as winners, but if Sabi didn’t control the prize pool then it’s kind of suspicious as to why they’d insist their role is clearing (and the prize inventor isn’t a clearing role, it’s just how it’s being used).

Wolves aren’t allowed to discuss the event either, before it ends, so other than generally encouraging wolves to enter the contest, it’s not like they can manipulate the contest to win it.

Or maybe I’m looking at this the wrong way, it’s actually more likely that a wolf would’ve entered today if at least one of Sabi/Guava were a wolf, and this indicates that likely neither of them is? Idk if Sabi knew that Guava was the prize inventor or not but maybe that doesn’t matter

They’re clearing each other quite hard. I’ve tried to push them both this game and the other always swooped in for a defense.

I don’t see anything in the neighborhood for why Sabi would defend Scorbunny, I think they just trust them. Scorbunny, on the other hand, is defending Sabi because of mech, fwiw.

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Yeah same
Lol idk why I worded it like that, they’re not w/w with Guava saying “hey Sabi I know your flavor” in the thread lmao

This neighborhood is what I was referring to when I talked about “doing things out of the thread” earlier, by the way. I was questioning Scorbunny about their role and about the Sabi clear.

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