no we’ve been fucking up your day on purpose
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the only way you could fuck up my day purely through setups is by being the mu champs shotcallers and, by doing so, being an affront to good setup design
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“All players keep their eyes closed when voting & the vote tally is secret. Votes for you only count if you vote.”
votes are secret and the organ grinder is immune to execution unless they self-vote. they don’t need to die in order for the good team to win, though. so if they’re outed evil at the end, it could work against evil
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this works incredibly poorly in real life
as someone who’s hosted irl mafia
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if your argument is that players need to be trusted not to peek, youre doing that anyway
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nope
it’s more an issue of it slowing down the game substantially to make sure people don’t fuck up
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deceive inc 10er was based on an irl mafia setup that i played
i forgot to mention this in the thread 
wait deceive inc is an irl mafia game
if your worry is about slowing the game down, you should hear about leviathan
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the only difference being that i played it with 7 or 8 players which uh
i woke up at 1 am for this
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no that’s just the flavor
the setup is based on irl mafia
as for organ grinder’s merits
I’m not even sure why you would put this in a setup
It’s one of those roles that just has ‘why’ plastered all over it
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they promised like 45 minions
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au’wre is leviathan but well designed
It genuinely has no positives to its inclusion