it seems totally fine to me to deliberately filter out all AI art from your personal social media feeds/art consumption habits/etc., to the extent possible! similarly I think it would be fine to filter out all digital art (because you don’t like how it looks, or because you don’t like how a high percentage of it looks), or all pencil art, or all art made by teenagers, or all art made by people who also use their art blogs to get into stupid internet discourse [derogatory], whatever makes you happy
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Like we agree that these downsides exist. We just disagree on what to do about them. My answer is “there is nothing I can do with my attitude toward AI art that will actually change the amount of slop in the world, so I want to find and share the good stuff with this interesting new technology”
Also this is only somewhat related but it’s so fucking annoying to be looking for references for real things that really exist in real life and just getting fucking AI art bullshit that has no fucking fidelity to the thing it’s supposed to represent. I saw a screenshot the other day of a Google search for baby peacock and like 18 of the 20 images were AI generated and did not look like an actual baby peacock. The last few times I’ve drawn stuff, finding references has been hell. There was one thing I just gave up because it was so frustrating wading through useless AI images that weren’t actually the thing I was looking for but had been tagged as the thing and it was fucking everywhere
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Yeah I just use before:2020 at this point
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well im not sure I agree with the “by teenagers” part but I agree with your overall point Arete
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Things become shit sometimes, they get flooded with low-quality stuff. I don’t think the answer to things becoming shit is to get really mad about it or to gain massive disdain for an art medium. I don’t think the answer to drop-shippers flooding the market for shit making it harder to find high-quality stuff is to go “ew drop-shipped clothes” every time I see someone wearing them, or to grow a burning hatred for drop-shippers, that’s intensely unproductive and will only ruin my day. It’s to just do my best to filter my own experience
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you’re allowed to filter out ai images in the same way that you’re allowed to filter out all images with the color red in them, in that you’re allowed to do whatever you want, even if it’s not incredibly practical or that good of an ideae
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this is true total internet destruction god willing
return to intranet
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I don’t like feeling disdain, it’s unpleasant. I don’t like thinking of things as beneath me. I wish this whole world was above me. It’s not, so I just ignore the stuff that isn’t.
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i have no smart opinion on ai art. the only thing i can say is that i get terrified by it sometimes. the uncanny valley thing. like i legit sometime feel like i wanna puke, not coz like, the image itself looks that bad, but just because of how uncanny it looks. it can terrify me, like im a nightmare, a horror movie
Amazon getting flooded by dropshippers was (is) a complete disaster
that being said the onus is on the buyer to make sure whatever they’re buying they’re happy with yes
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And I’ll write before:2020 on my google searches and ignore all the mass-produced low-quality drop-shipper listings and not look at people’s shitty photography instagrams until the end of time.
Unless I want some really specific good for a Halloween costume and don’t care about its quality, or I want to look at photos of cats and don’t care about their Depth Of Field, or I want to see an image and don’t care whether hte finer details are right. Then I’ll take advantage of technology lowering the barrier of entry to create something, because it really is nice to be able to get something easy and shitty when that’s all I need.
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(And, outside of this, I still do think that AI art is not inherently shitty, and that it’s a very cool medium that allows people to do things that aren’t possible in normal art, and I like looking at the different displays of skill and communications of meaning that are uniquely possible with it. And I like looking at art from the disabled artists who I follow who wouldn’t be able to create any visual art at all otherwise. I like that there’s more artists in the world.)
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I hadn’t even considered the usage of AI as an accessibility tool for images (I knew about writing) - what a good idea
Me when I’m an abled freak
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Yeah, a lot of hte people I know making Good AI Art are disabled, because, well, if you’re really passionate about digital art and you want to put time into making digital art, you’re just going to do it the normal way, unless there’s something in particular stopping you from doing so. I didn’t really think of it at first either but it’s why so many people use it
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What if it was called “ai fart”
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(And thank you for talking about this with me, because a lot of these thoughts were sitting in my head undeveloped for a while but I didn’t really have any reason to express them 'cause most people In The Random Online aren’t the type that you can actually converse with about this stuff, they’ll just talk past you. Fortress of arguing dot com the place for recreational arguers I love it very much)
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okay but what if i told you i just thought about a new thing ai art can be used for that makes it categorically bad actually
(this is a joke)
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Litten used AI to create the flavour for his terrible game, AI enabled this game to happen, can ew give AI a FoL hosting ban for high crimes
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