Dangan Werewolf Invitational (2/15) Game Ended Night 2 - Despair Won

I had a reason though it was cause the joke vote didn’t seem like something they’d do.
I’ve been pushing on Drinks since like D1 and honestly would’ve been fine killing them D1 but Demi insisted we vote them the next day and I went with it for the sake of I wanted Chronos dead too.
They claimed Drinks was playing town and if I was despair why would I actively be against this claim? I said the moment Demi claimed this that it was a bad reason to keep them alive over Chronos cause Demi had never seen Drinks play mafia so how would they know Drinks isn’t going to do the same thing as Mafia?
I admit if Drinks was being sused out hard and I thought there was no way to save them then yeah I’d vote them over Apo I admit. But I was pushing them even before everyone jumped on the Drinks wagon cause they were being little help the first day. Both Drinks and Chronos were on my PoE from the start.
While there is no proof I attempted to protect Bun night 2 which is why I was shocked to see Demi attacked the reason I skipped time forward is an attempt to be able to get another protect
(Though I don’t think we’ll get there sadly cause I need D8 plus another day I think)
Also Squid just said I didn’t visit anyone so unless I somehow killed without visiting or Squid is just lying this doesn’t make sense. Only other way is if 2 scum are left and I wasn’t the one who killed but then who did?

Also wanna say if people at any point want to vote me I mean, I’m not gonna be completely against it.
I certainly don’t think I’m a super important role in this but also I know I’m town and would rather not be voted lol.
But if it would help people read the board then I’m for dying.
Also if anyone needs a specific day/night then like uh. I can attempt to get your day/night if I live long enough. But I doubt anyone else needs this.

Hm, you bring a good point. For now, I’ll trust you. But the problem is that leaves only one realistic option left.

Katze.

Now this is heavily out of nowhere and I personally think they’re town, but hear me out.

There are 3 people left still being targetted by Flame Tokens.

Me
You
Katze

I know I’m town (even if I probably can’t convince folks of that)
Since squid didn’t see you leave, you’re town.
Katze on the other hand has a flame token and we don’t know if they’re town or not.

I think it’s very likely I get voted off today, but I’m gonna at least leave a paper trail of my logic so you can refer to it in future.

As Blasian mentioned it’s astronomically low chances for 2 despair to be alive right now, so for Squid to vouch for Blasian essentially confirms them unless some bullshittery happened. Then if we use the flame tokens as a base since Apo was also targetted by them. Likely leading to the thinking that both were hit with it, it leaves me and Katze. Which of course, I know I’m town.

Looking back Katze has been acting weird, singling out my posts specifically. Compared to their behaviour in the past there’s one major thing that’s different between then and today.

They’re all alone. They have no other despairs to watch their back. They’d been taking a more relaxed point compared to now, they’re trying to be proactive.

nya

that seems like a fairly disingenuous descriptor of my play, but ok :+1:

the claim is acknowledged

my question to you is: do you believe that there is something i am missing when evaluating you? i’m not alone in suspecting you, so i don’t believe that i’m making something out of nothing

i’m not particularly locked on the idea that you must be the last despair – i am capable of being wrong – but i believe that every other alive player has more going for them while i believe you actively have things going against you :joy_cat:

My playing for mostly yesterday onwards is the more important side as that is when I started taking things seriously. You can notice the shift in demeanour. Day 2 I was mostly confused and going with the flow as I didn’t have anything I could use information-wise.

If you have specific things you need explaining I can because in the end, there’s a good reason since I’m town.

with all due respect, that isn’t particularly helpful? yesterday was a dead end day where the second wolf was considered ~outed, and if you believe there’s only one left then you’d be by your own admittance saying that your contributions were zilch when it actually mattered

i feel like you should see why this isn’t convincing from my point of view? you turning on me for… evaluating you when i have probably done the most out of anyone this game to kill the dead mafia feels kinda desperate to me, but i’m still willing to hear you out :person_shrugging:

All you’ve really said here is that: “I’m not convinced”

What I said is I can explain specific instances you want explained.
Based on the flame token and Squid’s check, it’s very likely one of us.

well, yes, i’m not convinced :stuck_out_tongue:

my point was that if you started playing the game after both dead wolves were already dead/outed, it seems kinda ironic that you’re accusing me of changing my demeanor when im “all alone” when that’s when you apparently did :joy_cat:

like, i guess my first question is why you’d start taking the game seriously specifically then? why not earlier or sooner?

also, why are you so adamant the flame tokens contain another wolf?

It’s the more logical answer. Especially based on the fact that we had Apo in the flame tokens. It makes little sense for Drinks if he was going to include one to not include both.

Though regardless, I don’t need to convince you. Because if you are Mafia, it’s pointless.

The argument kind of doesn’t make sense when you also had a flame token

This ^

I find it really odd that there’s a sort of double standard going on because if you’re sussing out Katze for having a flame token, shouldn’t you do the same for yourself?

I think in general Drinks just put tokens on anyone they either knew were scum or people they knew people didn’t have a clear opinion on (Minus Katze I can’t say why for that one)
People didn’t have a clear opinion on me for a long time, makes sense to give me one to try and throw sus on me seeing that no one checked me and the only people who full on trusted me were Scoot who was seen as sus and Etha who didn’t say it all that much anyway.
It’s entirely possible they only did Apo and moved on though. Cause it means us focusing on flame tokens just wastes our time.
We should still keep them in mind, but don’t be afraid to look at other people of course cause it’s possible Drinks is trying to throw us off with these placings.

Like I said before, the only other person that could be scum is Etha based on behavior and/or mechanics, but I don’t have much of an opinion on them