Deceive Inc FM: Misery Empire Hydra - MAFIA WIN

Sorry but also i think hammers are largely more beneficial than not. That is my personal belief.

Well let’s see. HyunwooAndIsol are town. The wagon defs has wolfs on it so keep that in mind. With HyunwooAndIsol dead and OreoCello dead that gives us a 3 person pool to focus on yeah. Cross reference that with day 1 which i will do eventually TM because i think that Wonderland CFD was wolf driven. Also we learn that OthelloCeasers solve is largely useless because it was entirely predicated on Hyunwoo being a wolf and they are not. We prevent continued preflipping giving us more focus. I could keep going but

There’s a lot of info available.

Jade wanted to play too i didn’t let her.

Point is I’ve not hidden who I am in any game and especially this one. Everyone knows what I’m gonna do there.

I’m gonna go solve the game quick out of sheer annoyance at having to defend myself against something every player in this game should be aware of

This is the exact moment of Zenon’s Law

MeLootz (3): HellDualies, catch22 (Town), Danger_Icy

Danger_Icy (2): OriceliSoworio (Town), Poison_Ivy

OriceliSoworio (2): HyunwooAndIsol (Town), Miku

Poison_Ivy (1): Wereduck

Not Voting (2): Wonderland (Town), MeLootz

Zenon’s Law would suggest one in ML DI HD.

I do believe the Wonderland wagon was scum driven and beneficial over me because I was at the time a weaker fluffier slot than Wonderland who was much more vocal about game stuff than me. DI and HD on the wagon matches with Zenon’s Law on both

I would think the other wolf is 100% off wagon in all worlds meaning another wolf in Me Wereduck Ivy ML

This VC also looks fucking awful for me and I wonder if wolfs are banking on that and my hammer to push me through to win the game here.

Oh I’m dumb OriceliSoworio was not even on the wagon…huh thought they were

My best guess would be one wolf on one wolf off based just on how the day played out

One in Icy Ivy Wereduck and Me

One in HD and ML

IMHO there’s always one in either Icy or HD. I think that’s the simplest place to start IMHO.

If HD flips wolf one in me Ivy Wereduck

If Icy flips wolf it’s probably always ML IMHO.

That’s a good start.

Now I know people don’t trust me on things like this but my VCA is pretty fire and I can get receipts of me outing an entire wolf team with it. Catching Eliza with it. In both these cases I got ignored and town lost though lol

Back to work continue in a bit

Obvs fmpov I know my alignment

So i look at pairings of HD and Ivy or

HD and Wereduck

As well as Icy and ML

I was gonna ISO but i just can’t slog through one…I can’t do it.

One thing i vaguely remember is that Luka and ML has a lot of interactions especially early game that were kinda hard for me to read they could imho go either way in terms of being partnered or not partnered interactions.

Also wrt HD and Ivy yesterday was… Intresting. Iirc Leafia does like theatre and I right the way they hard pushed HD maybe was unpartnered but the pull off was EXACTLY how Id pull off a Partner when I’m trying to distance right? You push early for a couple hours than look for a jumping off point and drop off the wagon.

Leafia is also playing how I expect a wolf that wants to control the narrative in FX to play. Throwing shade around, sending out feelers to see where the push is. Especially the way they’ve left themselves outs on every wago they’ve brought up. Things like “Abbi is a wolf” was followed with “but would a wolf really do this?”

It’s simple but effective. You look like your genuinely solving but really your just poking and prodding to see what the thread is thinking. IIRC they’ve pushed lightly or not so lightly like 3 or 4 players already.

Actually…

VOTE: Leafia

I have decided that I think I’m incapable of reading may so I’m leaving this hydras may read entirely up to Jade. I’ll annoy her about it later which will be funny since we’ve talked about this game outside the thread for exactly like 5 messages lol

Someone check me because I’m prone to omgus but i just an getting a really icky feeling when I think about Leafia

Hey I am Hazard. The other part of this hydra you keep forgetting which is both honestly upsetting and starting to leave me confuse. you seriously just remove my existence from this hydra.

i would like to say for i think the 4th time now i am the reason why leafia backed off HD. if you read back to the start of that day you can see me talking to May through all the accusations where i then went to out hydra chat and told leafia “This is not scum may i think.” she allowed me to follow this read and unvoted.

Miku you do alot of reading on leafia’s slot but nothing on me. we are both connected so i want you to read into my stuff as well. not just leafia.

fair enough i guess

HOWEVER. these parings are hundred percent ideas i was thinking of. so i like that. I was of the world after day 1 there was one evil between HD/ML which i still have no find a reason why not to discredit that read. i have been trying to find out why people are town reading the ML half but i cant find shit.

:biohazard:

In a world where I’m right on Ivy and HD things look like this

In a world where it’s Icy ML it looks like this.

In this world we literally had them early day 1 lol

Why is you supposedly convincing Leafia to back off even relevant at all to my theory that it was distancing?

I have no way to prove or disprove you said or did anything of the sort. Nothing changes when I am advising your hydra of distancing with a partner.

I don’t forget you exist i just an focused on Leafia since she’s the main head and sometimes I do that in hydra games.

Like people have focused on me and ignored Jade

But I don’t think HD and ML are paired so… we don’t have the same ideas

Also I’ve done this quite a bit

Focused on Leafia

Focused on may

Focused on one head in OrigamiCrane

Focused on Luka

I just didn’t like openly address them as just one of the names but I’m doing that here and ig I’m sorry about that.

Why are you choosing to ignore my existance. you think leafia is good at thearte ok. But have you ever seen me even try thearter in the time i have been in this game :biohazard:
Lets go back to the time

here you can see me and Leafia not liking HD’s current place in the square.

after these messages i backed off cause this was something new i havent seen from may

here is me wanting to step in to rile done the situation a bit but leafia kept overtalking me

Leafia and May still arguing

Me riling down the situation and trying to talk through with may their thought process

and the final read i got from the calmed discussion with may (you can go back and read through this if ya want)
After this i talked with leafia in our chat and was able to convince them that may maybe could still be town

and this is where i left with only after i left around 2 minutes did ivy change their vote saying to trust my judgement.

this would have been a hell of a thearte from me may and leafia for this to have been fully scripted miku

you didnt read my message