Deceive Inc FM: Misery Empire Hydra - MAFIA WIN

[Wonderland]

Mood

[Wereduck]

plus ultra mood

[OriceliSoworio]

@Miku

My read on you has not changed so not sure where the inconsistency is but

Get good

@Miku

At first i was like okay whatever maybe oreo cookies and creame is just like a try hard but at some point the constant attempts to force people to do what they want and the reactions to things like post activity hours before EoD is forced its not cure and towny anymore

Totally gels with your earlier wolfread of me

[OriceliSoworio]

If someone self votes, they are more likely to be a wolf than not, I know this from experience. But whatever

[Miku]

@Wereduck

wait why is miku voting themselves

Jokes.

I’m hilarious

[catch-22]

okay i’ll try again

does anyone townread HD
if so, why

this is why i think they are a wolf:

@catch-22

May’s pushes this game have been pretty bad, I just don’t find the reasoning on my confidence not matching to be something they’d likely come up with town after seeing me get collectively misvoted by the entire town over similar reasoning in a recent game and knowing that my confidence rarely matches with what I’m actually thinking. I don’t think their push on melootz’s feels very good faith either - it makes sense for melootz’s to be concerned with how my post about luka was being ignored given they spoke about luka prior to that point, but it’s not as bad as the previous read

the other head in that hydra has done nothing good either - they made a couple walls on my slot with pretty bad reasoning to wolfread us - like giving different reads on the heads of a hydra, they said it’s an easy thing to do but why would that actually be wolfy?

I don’t really feel strongly on this because tonally May feels town and the way they’ve explained some of their reads /word choice feels stream-of-consciousness towny but I can only put so much weight into this when May is good at formulating elaborate reads as mafia

@catch-22

well, I thought about it more, and there’s a chance it’s due to it being a hydra game, but May is not playing as freely/flowey as she does as town. Last game I was incorrectly wolfreading her for how fluidly she was moving between targets to fos / pretend she suspected them in order to garner reactions. here I haven’t felt that - she’s felt more formulaic , not trying to gauge people as much, etc, which is indicative of her wolfgame - her two wolfreads are the same at sod as they are now, I don’t get a sense she is moving through things in an explorative way, especially because I have felt like the game has been pretty towny overall, which is a sentiment that both of us shared last game that resulted in May rapidly shifting between suspects, trying to figure out a solve, but I haven’t felt that here - not that she would have to as town right now, because she is pretty sure garfooled is mafia, but like. I’d still probably expect a bit more exploration than I’ve seen

@catch-22

it doesn’t help that the other head has done nothing towny either imo

[Miku]

@Miku

girl that is HATSUNE MIKU you have gone TOO FAR

More like Hotsune Miku

Am i right

[Wonderland]

Brad speficially has the read of hells isnt with loots and scum reads them if loots is town

@catch-22

[OriceliSoworio]

That sounds like quite a convoluted read

[catch-22]

@OriceliSoworio

If someone self votes, they are more likely to be a wolf than not, I know this from experience. But whatever

That's a nice argument senator

[Miku]

@OriceliSoworio

No, Zenon’s conjecture (it’s not a law lol) is useless, it didn’t apply to the game we played together that just ended so now the gag rule is lifted

It’s a law and it’s far > than rand so

Ignore it i don’t care lol i won’t though

[catch-22]

i agree with this assessment, i’m just currently at lootz being town so

[OriceliSoworio]

If it’s a law, it needs a proof, and one counterexample is enough to disprove it. Being completely blind to the possibility of pure wagons is not how the game should be approached

[OriceliSoworio]

Assassin’s Creed and Philosophy 2 on TS are two great examples off the top of my head

[catch-22]

And I can link way more games where villagers did it

[Miku]

@Miku

What is this beef even about anymore. What are you even saying. Why are you saying it

Good Question

They just don’t like me it’s okay I get that a lot

[OriceliSoworio]

A couple counterexamples doesn’t disprove a statistical trend. And it doesn’t change the fact that self-voting is anti-town

[Miku]

@catch-22

abi can you ask jaiden on discord about this it;'s urgent

A. Don’t call her Jaiden she doesn’t want that

B. Naw

[catch-22]

It’s more than a couple, and you would be doing the exact same thing as that lol

I cant be bothered to argue this though tbh so whatever makes you sleep at night

[HyunwooAndIsol]

Isol stares at Loots and Dualies,

“If I had to pick one. I know this is against popular beleif, but I distrust Loots more than I do dualies.”
He shrugs, “Dualies hasn’t exactly been subtle, which I personally would assume a day one wolf would be, unless them or their partner were being pushed. And alot of Loots messages have read to me personally as appealing to others, and trying to steer under the radar.”