see above
see above
i actually dunno tbh
it might be bad but i believe in it and i dont have anything better to go off of
people arent obvious town in every village game and wazza was attributing her lack of contribution day 1 to irl duties
as much as you might like to, you canāt just ignore meowntainado, the village game where she did basically nothing day 1 and day 2
maybe the fact they basically spewed themselves town with the modkill stuff and wanting to be a hero if they were right about you and zone being wolves
Considering I didnāt
- remember if I was in that game
- which site it happened on or when it happened
- it happed at least 4 months ago
Iām not ignoring meowntainado, I have no recollection of meowntainado
Especially since you claimed I died D1
Theyāre not modkilled so I put zero stock into this
Not only is it easily fakeable, 1) Iām not a wolf and 2) their progression on zone is far from satisfactory
Disclaimer: Each read has been written individually, without comparing player votes and relations. Heavily abreviated due to internet crashing halfway through wallpost and losing motivation to retype.
- Firekitten - Claimed Town PR early, an action I sincerely doubt wolves would take in a closed setup. I could understand such a gambit happening later on, but not within the first few hours. Also made dynamic reads, which I consider a good sign.
- ATNoName - Randomly voting may not be a conclusive indication of scumminess, so Iām not listing them as necessarily suspicious - just, yāknow, kinda sus. Tonally wolfy though.
- Wazza - Inclined to townread Wazza; tonally town and making reads.
- Aelin - Probably not W/W with Arctic; wolves tend to distance D1 unless otherwise necessary.
- Mistyx - I know a lot of players have Mistyx as ātotally townā, but I donāt see it.
- Agent47 - Lack of dynamic reads, pushing on Kii and later Arctic when the latter defends the former. Maybe Agent was following up on Aelinās reaction test push on Kii?
- Jarek
- Magnus - Obvious wolf; only evils and useless townies canāt be active. Either way, kill this slot or wait for a replacement, whichever comes first.
Iāve already informed the hosts of the general why.- Kanave
- Kiiruma - Iāmā¦ not really sure about this slot. Iām pretty sure Kii canāt be W/W with either Arctic or Agent, but I canāt tell whether itās T/T/T, or T/T/W.
- Arctic - Townreading for dynamic reads and wallposts, among other things.
- Zone_Q11 - Made dynamic reads; never W/W with Agent.
- VooDooSh - Maybe itās hypocritical of me, but I canāt appreciate Voodooās āneutralityā. A lot of reads will change following Voodooās flip.
Sorry if itās my last post, and even if I remain active Iām sorry for being less active earlier. Iād rather not get into specifics.
Heyo, I said I was having a break from thread last time I spoke iirc
But the truth is, I had a break and then slept (and did the classic seeing I should wake up and going back to sleep thing)
Anything important worth noting? (Iāll do my own bits of catchup later too)
Votecount
| Voted | Voters | Count |
|---|---|---|
| Aelin | Arctic, Litten, Mistyx | 3/7 |
| Wazza | ATNoName, Aelin, Agent47 | 3/7 |
| Agent47 | Wazza | 1/7 |
| ATNoName | Jarek | 1/7 |
| VooDooSh | Zone_Q11 | 1/7 |
| Zone_Q11 | VooDooSh | 1/7 |
| [Not voting] | Magnus, Kiiruma, Kanave | 3 |
Ping @LadyLuck if anything is wrong
@Host_Account_1, you forgot to remove Mistyxā vote on Magnus in your previous vote count.
Remind people to vote VooDooSh, and if that doesnāt work, then I guess I will be alone in the one-man wagon at EOD2.
I aināt joining Aelin/Wazza wagons. I said I would be fine with Kanave/Kiiruma wagons, and not the former two because I townread both for individual reasons.
(Though admittedly I have only recently started townreading Wazza because we have similar opinions on VooDooSh.)
itās not easily fakeable when he 1. hasnāt played forum mafia before and certainly hasnt played with a role like this
why does it matter whether youāre a wolf or not for this read to be valid - itās clear he believes in the read
they have like no progression on zone, which is better than a bad progression
No progression is bad progression.
I asked him questions; He didnāt answer them, saying he is overwhelmed by everything.
Then, when EOD1 happened, he just suddenly said: āI think Zone is scum,ā without giving any reasons whatsoever.
He said it was because āhe thought it was too late to change wagons anyway,ā but now, 19 hours into D2, he still hasnāt given any reasons as to why he scumread me.
FTR this happened to Agent as well, except he seems to be too dumb to even understand what I was asking, and probably wonāt even bother checking this out.
why is this a reason to townread aelin when you townread me
why are jarek and kanave missing reasons
your reason for townreading wazza is that they have the same bad voodoos read as you despite, regardless of voodooās alignment, this being the easiest read for wolves to make
why do you townread aelin
wolves care more about justifying their actions
if he was a wolf and wanted to scumread you for agenda reasons he would have some actual reasoning
Alright, catch up stuff (About 300 posts of catch up)
I donāt even want to comment on this rn.
I think I touched on it near SoD!
Following this there was mostly discussion of Eli setup stuff and whatnot which I know we need to not comment on but Iām just mentioning I saw it.
I kinda like this Zone post.
Disclaimer before I begin saying much more: Iāve said multiple times idk how to read Zone, I find reading him fairly painful.
However, having said that I think that Zone trying to give the thread some direction (and some people like Mist whoāve felt a bit eh too, some direction) is a good look. Idk if townie but itās good for thread health at least.
Based on the reply function I can see that only Atlas commented to this post and yet this is the exact same reason I voted (and stayed on) Jarek yesterday. So itās really continuing to erk me that Arctic has treated things differently. Though honestly idk what to make of ATNo, I had weak townread on them and theyāve really not improved on it.
Probably something to do with his internet crashing and his deleted wallpost.
Yep. Nobody else seems to be going after VooDooSh for some reason except Wazza, and I have clearly stated that he is my top scumread in my first posts of D2.
It aināt a good townread, but I havenāt seen Wazza do anything particularly scummy aside from what I have skimmed about her being a hypocrite when she asked Aelin for her reads or something.
She was the one that made pushes on D1, which had progressed the threadstate a lot.
ā¦admittedly I did not factor anything from D2 into this read because most of it was her fighting Wazza.
I donāt know what it necessarily is but Iām not a fan of the post purely since heās asking people to convince myself and Aelin, which just before this point he had posted reasons why I could be scum (Not scum reading me, just talking about them)
@Zone_Q11 What made you think I was Town before I even made my Voodoosh push?
This bias does not imply that all who does not give reasons to their reads are town.
I am fairly certain this is my second time dealing with this kind of schtick in this game.
Janitor usually refers to a role being cleaned, not a false flip. Also, I doubt that it would be present due to current balanceā¢ things.
Just going to comment on this middle line of this particular post because in general Iām trying to work out wtf this means. VooDoo claimed to have a role which has huge negative utility with not much of an upside. Then to be vanillized (later in the day) following them ignoring their negative utility. - This in itself probably causes a fair amount of the suspicion on VooDoo due to the fact that the role honestly just doesnāt make sense. Like, ok, you know if a person rolled a number in the game? Nice. The only benefit I see is it can see if someone is vanilla or not. Are you trying to say VooDooās reactions are super innocent despite everything else looking horrible? And clearing em for it?
The āconvinceā part was the only thing I was a little bit confused on but overall, again, I liked it since it seemed ok for thread health, tried to kickstart Mist a bit (whoās fallen off somewhat) and also commented on others a bit.
WTF? Has everyone somewhen decided that they all hate to read me or something? Has āI donāt want to read Zoneā become the norm?
First it was GA, then Aelin, then you.
Whoās next!? Myself from an alternate universe!?
Nothing. Prior to that, you were nullscum to me as nothing in particular made you stood out at D1.
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