I mean I’d 100% vote and it is where my vote’s going to be today but uh, do you all want to talk first or are we just hoping game ends here and if not then we’re sorting things out in F3?
I would like to choose the latter.
@Wigfrid has been killed by Execution. They have become a spooky ghost!
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@Wanda was killed by the mafia! They became a spooky ghost!
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Firstly, that instant hammer was messed up. Even if Wigfrid flipped red and the game ended, it would still be messed up because you all gave them zero opportunity to defend themselves whatsoever. I discouraged an early hammer on Warly for much that same reason, it just doesn’t feel fun to be on the receiving end of, no matter your alignment. Please do not encourage early hammers again in the present nor future.
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When prompted to form a judgment call on anybody in the game by Wormwood, Woodie instinctively pulled Wortox’s name out of thin air with a fairly loose reason to suspect them. Rather than being a sign of undue focus as I would have previously considered, Woodie literally just returned to the start of the thread and named the first person they saw (despite having formerly read the thread). Wortox never pointed towards this incident as evidence against their partnership, and I find it less intuitive to consider a scenario in which Woodie would intend to specify a partner for no reason against just naming the literal first player to cross their page.
Here is the caveat to that line of reasoning:
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Wortox, on the other hand, hasn’t been pulling his weight, so I’m starting to side-eye him a bit.
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Gonna have to cast my vote for Wortox for now.
VOTE: Wortox
This outright contradicts Woodie’s above statement, revealing an inconsistent outlook on Wortox’s slot at a time period when the latter was the leading wagon. This logic was principally used as an excuse to vote Wortox, and it wasn’t a substantiated bus either, but the way it’s conveyed here feels tacked on. A way in which to vote Wortox without any degree of ceremony, in a sense more often aligned with sheeping than bussing since there’s no credit to gain from this vote.
Two days ago, Wicker outright proposed forming a thunderdome between themselves and whomever else was nominated for execution the following day. This decision was boldly objected to by both myself and Wortox, and yet Wicker maintained the pledge until the end of the fifth day.
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We are currently in a position where we can afford two mistakes before we reach LYLO, and… I propose we get rid of myself.
This is a harmful stance this late into the game regardless of alignment, unless you’re getting executed either way. From a villager’s perspective, everyone else has a higher chance of flipping evil etcetera etcetera. It just looks self-sacrificing, which can sometimes create doubt.
I have already stated how I am not confident I will make a good choice if I were to live at F3. To reiterate: I do not believe I have been able to show that I am town, and I believe might become a liability at F3. This was the reason why I put the idea of my own execution today.
It does not look self-sacrificing. It is self-sacrificing.
I request that we will let me thunderdome whoever survives tomorrow if the game does not end with today’s execution.
Also no @Wickerbottom I’m not gonna let you Thunderdome Wigfrid tomorrow because you read super good and I’m not risking anybody choosing to just kill you.
Which considering that Wicker immediately proceeded to not only vote Wigfrid immediately on the sixth day, but also actively supported Wortox to cast an instant hammer, causes it to sound unreasonably performative in hindsight.
Wicker’s reasoning to accuse Wigfrid and flip a townread on Warly weren’t substantiated ahead of time, nor was the slowly descending Wurt on their readlist as Wortox proposed voting them out repeatedly.
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The fact I’m somehow this low is crazy to me.
Like look at interactions, look at how Woodie acted, voted and all.
Though I am curious why I was put this low on your list, I would first like to inquire why you put Wortox between Wolfgang and myself.
Two of Woodie’s four posts at D2 was interacting with Wortox and neither implied directly that they were aligned together. Unless the two performed a theater where one of the duet dropped out mid-performance, then the more obvious relationship that Wortox/Woodie has is just V/W.
There’s a stark difference between your reactions to WX’s readlist, where Wortox just brashly attacked it with the same vigor as all their previous defences; whereas the latter explicitly made a point to inoffensively evade questioning the topic.
I’ve flipped my perspective.
I’ll be honest, I’m annoyed at myself for quickhammering Wigfrid, especially when yesterday I’d even said that I ‘would vote but wanted to know if people wanted to talk first’ and then my dumb ass just casually went with it thinking game would be over and that it’s what Wicker and Wanda wanted with the snapvotes.
I just think it feels bad. The only quickhammers I’ve seen which have felt fulfilling were those where an evil player had already lived past their due multiple times and town finally got themselves together.
I sometimes enjoy it and I’ve been in games where the town quickhammer or snapvote feels super cool.
Snapvotes being in MyLo/LyLo and all
But honestly I can see it from your perspective too so all I can do is say sorry for my part in that. Idk which of you and Wicker is town, but I let you down by quickhammering and preventing discussion, as it’s always possible the result could have changed if we’d talked it out.