Enemy Within (Deus Ex 5) 10/18 - Town/NSF Victory

[Isolde]

@Atlas

NSF trooper is vt, it was a flavor thing pretty sure

Why would atlas think it’s VT?

[Isolde]

They just throwing out stuff so we don’t look at things

[Trochilidae]

oh god I’m even more confused what does that mean?

[Isolde]

@Trochilidae

oh god I’m even more confused what does that mean?

People are saying SK wrote the will

[Isolde]

Blizer, Arctic and Wazza sounds close to that will talk.

Atlas does just a tiny bit.

[Trochilidae]

but what does SK mean? is that a person or does it mean something else?

[Isolde]

@Trochilidae

but what does SK mean? is that a person or does it mean something else?

The Agent role thing.
The 3P.

[Isolde]

@Arctic
What your read on Blizer?

[Arctic]

he’s obviously not mafia and probably not NK

[Isolde]

@Arctic

he’s obviously not mafia and probably not NK

Why is he obviously not mafia exactly?

[Trochilidae]

oookay then whatever floats your boat!

[Arctic]

because he was hardbussing the leading mafia role and not in a cred-grabby way

[Arctic]

not bussing if he’s town but
you know what i mean

[Host_Account_3]

VC of Day 2

Voted	Voter	Count
Amelia	Isolde, Arctic, Jarek, Hippo, AtNoName	5/9
Isolde	Blizer, Amelia	2/9
Trochi	Kiiruma	1/9

[Isolde]

@Blizer

@Geyde

You have slots like Blizer who have the bare minimum of actual content to interpret on
There are ‘things noteworthy’ that the slot has done like defend me while also not defending me but the way they do it isn’t wolfy. It’s baseline expectation.

what do you mean defending you but not defending you?

i stated i struggle to read you, i have no idea where this came from?

@Blizer

i agree tbh

Jake still hasnt done anything to change my opinon on him

like i know he made that NK read, but thats pretty basic and easy to throw out

my vote is staying

@Blizer

yeah like

hes just throwing the read out there to atleast seem like hes providing content

its a nothingburger as geyde puts it

@Blizer

comparing to Questions FM, there are some similar vibes, though in questions he was much more active after he got wagon’d early, and he tried to discredit Brad’s wolfread on him

idk if thats simply cause he got wagon’d but his tune changed afterwards in that game

here is very passive and throwing out shit left and right

Geyde has improved macro-wise a bit for me, hippo has worsend from his behaviour

i have no qualms for hippo lynch, but i prefer jake still

@Blizer

im back for a while

couple things from reading

1.) Jake still hasnt really improved in my eyes, even though he had all day to do so, he feels stiff, and while i think his change of approach is towny, compared to Questions FM, he lacks actual progression or reads. Ive said it a couple times, but i legit think hes a frozen wolf in terms of progression and in regards to threadstate

@Geyde

Reading seth is actively frustrating because reading them using normal methods is challenging
So instead the best route to handle the slot is by associations because they are naturally incredibly polarizing

2.), i actually have a tinfoil that seth has a good chance being a wolf if Jake is a wolf, mainly with how both of kinda treated each other, mainly from seth’s end, and ill get into it

@Blizer

Reasons for my Seth-Jake W/W tinfoil:

Seth slapped Jake with a villager (Willager) town read on his slot, while jake on the other hand, with no progression nor any explanation slapped a wolf read onto seth. I kinda think this is distancing from both sides tbh, Seth with his villager read on jake with their behaviour, explaning how no matter what they do the slot will always be wolfy, and again, jake no explanation on the slot.

My other reason to why is that Seth is pushing me to be executed (Along with amelia) today, because our slots can help solve the game, even though he has no actual read on my slot (I dont remember him even giving me a wolf read, he just put me in his lower PoE). The reason why i think this is noticeable is because out of everyone who has been wolfreading Jake so far, ive been the one that has been pushing him the most, and i actually did a meta dive on jake aswell, comparing past games to now. This could be confbias, but i feel like seth is soft-defending Jake by pushing me to be the yeet today so that pressure from my slot is gone from his wolf buddy

again, i think im getting into confbias terriory with this tinfoil a bit, but i feel like they have some w/w equity if jake is a wolf tbh

Ok yeah I kinda agree with you.
I’m no longer certain because I don’t think Mafia!Blizer pairs me and Jake up with this much thought if he was trying to ML me next day.

Still think Arctic/Blizer mafia team in the back of my mind.

[Isolde]

Although I will disagree with his statement because I never actually pushed him until the very end of the day because I wanted a PoE to go through.

My thought was if Jake is town we literally get zero out of it.

[Isolde]

@Blizer
What say you If Jake flipped town?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

actually doesn’t the wording in the OP suggest that non-towns know all town roles, just not who has them
idk

also you guys are too busy assuming that there is no fake flips so geyde is mafia
but JOKES ON YOU THERE WAS TWO FLIPS NOT A FAKE FLIP

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

disclaimer: geyde was probably still mafia because of the whole sacrifice thing but joycat

[Arctic]

@Isolde

My thought was if Jake is town we literally get zero out of it.

this isn’t even true
there was plenty to get out of it which is why though i felt he might be town we should still kill him anyway
because there were some people like you and hippo who didn’t want to kill him at first