FAM3: REDEMPTION - [n1] [55 alive] Secondary Sighs

[YoubutWorse]

we have like an hour till EoD right, i odnt think anybody but creature is dying

[Apocryphal]

Two hours

[Apocryphal]

EoD is 2 est

[catbae]

you’re wonderful tbh

[YoubutWorse]

thought it was one est my b

[Apocryphal]

I’m just a humble shitposter

[May]

Alright. Good morning, flipped wolf. That is a single area for me to focus on that doesn’t put my brain in the hell posts dimension (place of too many posts).

Place of too many posts

@Marluxion

@Litten do you feel it my son

@Marluxion

your demise is at hand

@Marluxion

the cold steel of iron pressed against your back
the pistol of vengeance pointed directly at your heart
this ones for krc

/Dayvig Litten @Dark_Joycat

Weird neutraly interaction. It feels like Marl is Thinking about Litten a decent amount here, what with opening by pinging him. Not sure if it’s W/T or W/W, but there’s a focus that makes for good context.

@Marluxion

VOTE: Apo

Theres 73 hidden replies between this and his last post and I realy dont want to look at the context so I’m not going to. First vote on Apo. Nothing interaction containment of nothing

@guavagudetama

@Zone_Q11

Uh… Sure. Good news: I am now targeting Jaiden. Do you feel better now?

I mean better than Eliza but I’m not getting scum vibes from Jaiden either
we’re only 100ish posts in though

@Marluxion

guava is probably town

This is the first actual thought Marl provides on a post, and it’s kinda, hedgy in comparison to his future townreads, given at a point where guava is the top wagon. It’s very, off-the-cuff. Don’t think it’s partnered

@ElizaThePsycho

vul’s push on zone is wolfy
VOTE: Vulgard

@Marluxion

i thought this but didnt want to say anything yet

BAD POST DISLIKE

I’d call Eliza/Vulgard V/V off this BAD POST I think. Its a bad post you can see why

@ElizaThePsycho

you’re using arguements that should not be used 22 minutes into d1, even in a mash

@Marluxion

basically this
the only reason i hesitated is because it might be a meta read on zone specifically but i’m not really convinced it’s genuine

But yea Marl’s backing up Eliza here in a way that reaaaally feels like pushing a villager’s bad arguments against another villager. He is the pillar of support for Eliza. He needs not support a wolf in this manner. Eliza probably town

@Chloe

wat want

y r u posting weird

@Marluxion

i dont think i’m posting weird
why is jarek v?

Super neutral inquiry on Jarek? IDK how Marl works IDK if this is the kind of thing he does of partner I need to check previous game but I have noted this down in my note book for future reference

@Marluxion

i’m like a pendulum on vulgard
i was gonna vote him but i think him swinging back to zone again is probably v for him

@Marluxion

i dont think he would spend this much time in one place as w

Vulgard’s town yeah

@Marluxion

i feel like the more zone posts the more obvious he’ll be in either direction, i’m just giving him time

Dislike

To create temporary refuge for Zone. In this game it is a lot happening at once and this kind of post feels it carries much more effectiveness than in a normal game, and I think wolves’d take opportunity to do of this sort on a partner. Especially given so many of his previous opinions feel they are on townies

@Marluxion

agree min is towny as heck

More strongly stated than anything so far, but only given in agreement to another person. Intewesting

@Marluxion

@Demisha

Vulgard slight w lean → too intricate analyzing and posting right off the gates

why is this wolfy though?

Hhhh neutralinteractions. Containment of question. I can read this either way, trying to get a partner to elaborate on a read he thinks is dangerous or trying to put pressure on a townie for a read he thinks is wrong. Especially in the way Vulgard has swung on Marl here.

@Marluxion

@Kiiruma

You’re on my evil team, Chloe isn’t, gotta distance mate

@Litten

VOTE: Kiiruma

w/w lost wolf soft?

What

@Marluxion

@Arctic

@Marluxion what was towny about that post from guava? feels like a nothing to me, which is why i thought it could be w/w from you propping up a partner since i already kind of suspect guava

it’s a purity read mostly from that and the posts just before it

@Arctic

why didn’t you want to say anything yet? i have a thought in mind which might make you villager if it’s the same reason

mostly because i wanted to see how zone would react first and what vul would do after
changed my mind on this now though, i’m like 90% certain vul is a villager

This interaction feels real to me. It is unhollow. I think it is not partnered with Arctic and further not with Vulgard and Guava. “Purity read” not W/W phrasing, way Marl changed his mind on Vulgard not W/W progression

@Marluxion

@Arctic

i thought it might be because even though you were beginning to suspect him you wanted to give him space after the champs game where you murdered him on day 1 as v/v

i mean this is also the case but i’m not gonna say that out loud

yea

@Marluxion

i like min so far

I don’t like how Marl sounds more Hedgy on min than he did before here. Said “towny as heck” previously and now has an air of hesitance.

@Marluxion

min read is mostly completely disregarding his own reads
purity + tone + postcount + cadence all point to min v

@Marluxion

purity is just that his posts feel like they are not fake
toneread is more viberead, like the energy being presented
cadence is the tempo of the posts being posted feel like min is not putting too much thought into what he is saying, hence likley being truthful
i can give examples if you want

He also seems to have an overly strong focus on explaining this read in comparison to the guava “purity read”, something that points to me as him thinking too much about it. He doesn’t give this read suddenly, he initially only mentioned it to support another’s read, now tries to “introduce it” again with scarednessphrasing.

@Marluxion

why sadbi for this specifically and not like
min or apo?

Rule of 3 :crogge: :crogge: :crogge: the rule with thte 3 in it :crogge: I refuse to take this game seriously :crogge: :crogge:

@Marluxion

i find it hard to believe you have not noticed two of the top posters at all
what makes sabi’s fluff catch your eye then?

He sounds like he is trying to murder Leafia here. It’s a murder voice. Not W/W

@Marluxion

ghana’s posting feels like when you put a breakfast sandwich in the microwave for 15 minutes and what comes out is a burnt husk resembling food but not actually even edible anymore

What does this mean

@Marluxion

where the heck is may

I tried to go for a short walk to get some exercise because I’m soooo good at taking care of myself but then the dog got loose and I had to chase after him for double the length of what the walk was supposed to be (as he can run much faster than I can) and it was like 30C outside which is not all that hot but it’s HUMID and I’m not built to handle temperatures so I nearly fainted like three times in the middle of the woods and by the time I was done fainting in the middle of the woods the heat had given me brain fog so bad I couldn’t speak and so I spent the rest of the day drinking a fuckton of water and playing collaborative mahjong (we were farming event points) (ice prison technique)

@Marluxion

litten has a few hard towntells i have not seen him do yet
no i will not elaborate

Too vague to be distancing, I think.

@Marluxion

did lol actually post yet
i haven’t seen him

Calls out lol and I in the same kind of way. This sounds like “called out villager for behaviour → call out wolf for it now to look equal”. W/W interactino

@Marluxion

no it wont, not even remotely
the only thing my flip is going to tell you is that nobody here can actually read me despite harping on me being polarized nonstop out of game
literally the worst of both worlds

I feel like this is a :joycat: moment but I’m not a big joycat poster

@Marluxion

i’m pretty sure vulgard is town
that’s my only useful read that i’m confident in leaving as my legacy
gonna stop killing the vibe of the thread and focus on work
if you need me then ping me

Carrying out the read he thought most about to a legacy he knows is doomed. It is low-effort. It is trying not to say much. Unfortunately that just means Marl is a wolf which we knew alreay

@Marluxion

@BradLand

VOTE: Sadbi

@Sadbi

Ok

@BradLand

VOTE: Creature

brad interaction of all time

He’s saying nothing. It’s antispew. I dunno what to think about this

@Marluxion

still more or less stand by my min read from earlier
same for guava

brads few posts i’ve seen so far are towny
amelia’s posts all feel really forced so far

Min’s still a wolf though

@Marluxion

silviu is basically impossible to read so i’m not even going to try, just ita him

Weird call out to make when he’s not mentioned Silviu once so far.

@Marluxion

i wasn’t speaking to you like i knew you were town, i just dont expect to be able to convince you regardless of your alignment
i figured you were killing me because you didn’t like playing with me as you have voiced in the past, and like, fair
i did not want to make that worse by deathtunneling you again

i’ve basically given you all i’ve got and if that’s not good enough then shrug, move on
the fact that i’m even still here bothing to solve and talk to people at all should be proof i’m not in antispew
if that isn’t good enough for you then i dont know what will be

@Marluxion

also if you were mafia you had no reason to publicly announce you were the one killing me
it removes any ability to be subtle with the drone strike later

My mind initially wants to build worlds of a D1 bus here with catbae but looking through Marl’s posts they are genuinely wolfy and the way he talks to catbae here feels like it holds weight. It doesn’t feel like Marl knows this is inevitable. I am happy to call catbae town

@Marluxion

how does creature manage this every single mash

@Marluxion

my boy is like a d1 vote magnet

I think this is an actual thought Marl has had? Calling it out so late into when he is about to die. I don’t think it has substantial implications on partnership but it feels like he’s actually thinking this which indicates a certain. Mindset

[Zenon]

@catbae

you’re wonderful tbh

I agree

[Amelia]

Let me dream okay

[Zenon]

I’m booooooooored

[catbae]

@Kanave

i’m legitimately considering wolf bucketing you because i town read your early posts and i have a 100% ratre of being wrong about those

@Kanave

they gave reads on me, i asked them to elaborate and when they did they hadn’t actually read my iso

i do suspect kanave still but these posts are slightly towny

[May]

TL;DR Vulgard Eliza Arctic Guava Litten Leafia town Min lol Zone wolf. And some vague feelings one way or another on Silviu Brad Creature Ghana that don’t call partnered or not to me but could be indicative of gamestate once we know more about that

[Apocryphal]

Oh wow

Wall post from May

[Apocryphal]

I dig it and the conclusions seem reasonable

[Apocryphal]

Except leafia
Leafia wolf

[May]

Probably reasonable next action is to read up on wolfy people. To hte mines I go

[May]

I do not like this game state

[Leafia]

Alright.

@Kiiruma

VOTE: lol

Reason: Red check

Hello all and GL, looking forward to this.

NAI I think. Since it’s early in the game.

@Kiiruma

Honestly it’s early game I’m just seeing how people feel and what the vibes are like

Slightly villagery honestly.

@Kiiruma

Ah the classic OMGUS
Leafia voting for Sadbi and the uno-reverso.

Not sure why I think it was Zervo misinterpreted this. Gives off slight not w/w vibes with Sadbi honestly.

@Kiiruma

Leafia’s not really standing out compared to most normal games, could honestly see the slot flipping either way.
Bit wolfy.

This honestly feels like a villagery thought.

@Kiiruma

There’s likely at least 1 evil in [Zorvo, Leafia, GGhana]

Wolfy statement given how large the game is.

@Kiiruma

Zorvo is straight wolf, I think their push against me has been in bad faith and as I said before, I thought their interactions with Leafia were wolfy which is why I said that it’s likely there’s at LEAST one wolf (Honestly multiple) in Zorvo, GGhana and Leafia

Provides reasoning here so that post doesn’t look quite as bad but it still looks slightly wolfy. He isn’t even ytring to consider the possibility that Zorvo is just an incorrect villager here. Especily when he knows that Zorvo has a history of acting exactly like this as a villager.

@Kiiruma

I wanted to start off by making some casual reads since this is… well, a huge f’ing game, and my initial read was honestly… that Zorvo and Leafia read really wolfy, and I went to see who was kinda around and with them, and GGhana was there.

Again he preflips both me and Zorvo without considering the possibility that we’re both villagers. I find it hard to believe that Kiiruma would be acting this way towards us as a villager.

@Kiiruma

Oh boy Chleb really wants to get a good read on me here, I better not screw this up.
I’m gonna screw this up and say something stupid, be scumread for it, then get myself shot and be like “Well, I tried to warn yall…”

Can’t put my finger on why, but I find this slightly wolfy.

@Kiiruma

Leafia ISO analysis: Leafia as a slot often can be a bit… tricky to read. There’s some games where Leafia can just spew their teammates and there’s other games where Leafia can be overly cautious which can once again give her away. I feel like Leafia’s interactions with Litten and Zorvo have been a bit weird and forced, as a slot Leafia feels as if she’s trying to be the kindly-aunt character and get along with some others while allowing others to do work for her. It’s more similar to scum games of hers from what I remember but she has been known to sometimes do these… moves… as town. So scumlean, nothing set in stone yet.

Zorvo ISO analysis: I feel like me reading Zorvo is something which can come across as fake to some people, as we’re almost always butting heads in games which we play in, but this game it feels like he has TMI and knows some things that he’s not supposed to know. He’s trying to force interactions with some players - As if you don’t interact with your wolfbuds at all, then it can give them away entirely, whereas good interactions can leave people believing that it’s more likely unpaired. I think Zorvo dying gives insight into slots which Zorvo has interacted with thus far (Mainly Leafia, but should give town some insight into Litten and also me) and lets people see - should Zorvo be wolf - whether or not some of his posts are in bad faith.

Not sure what to think of this though.

@Kiiruma

Zorvo just changes their argument on the fly to make their fake world fit.
I think that it kinda just shows Zorvo is a W with insanely bad faith in their pushes rn.
But y’know, I’m just saying…

Wolfy shade on Zorvo. That’s literally classic v!Zorvo and I think Kiiruma knows it.

@Kiiruma

I think I’m an easy push and yet one which people commonly go for.
It makes me that wolves are pushing me in bad faith but it’s just an easy for townies to look at me and see things incorrectly due to hyperanalysing.

Wolfy post that feels a bit LAMIST. Like he’s saying he’s so villagery that no villager should ever be scumreading him.

@Kiiruma

Zorvo/Leafia W/W and Leafia is “sheeping Achro” so Achro is blamed more later.
Achro/Leafia are unaligned.

Super wolfy.

@Kiiruma

Actually I’m gonna say this.
Kill me before Litten

Vote me cowards.

He literally said this about a wolfbuddy in a gsme where he was tied with them for topwagon, but I think he knows that people know that and is trying to tie himself to Litten for when he flips wolf.

@Kiiruma

Oh my god lmao.
Leafia is insanely wolfy it’s unreal

Blatent shade.

@Kiiruma

Oh yeah, idc.
Kill me if you want.
I have a cool thing I can do if I don’t die, so it’d be a shame but oh well. It’d go to Litten.
Especially since I’ll have a pelt by then and yall can see how Leafia and Zorvo have both pushed me in very bad faith this game.

Blatent attempt to pocket Litten here.

I think I’ve read enough of his iso. Kiiruma is just a wolf here. Please don’t take my word for it though. Read this iso I did of him and decide for yourselves. I’m null on Creature honestly. Still don’t know the scumcase on him.

[crazynuto]

I’m holding up well. Awoke to something interesting.

I got good vibes on hippo and frostwolf due to neighborhood reasons. I happen to be vibing with them, and one gave the other advice, which they likely wouldn’t have done if they were both scum.

Aside from that I’m just vibing.

[Leafia]

Pigeon is acceptable too.