FAM4: Thread 5 - Day 3

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 7:22pm

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 7:22pm

Threadmarks

Graveyard

@IcetFeelsPain - Died Day 1 - Dum, Unaligned Shapeshifter
@tutuu - Executed Day 1 - bystander, Mafia Notification Hater
@catbae - Died Night 1 - cheez-it, Town Normie Cryptid
@Silviu200530 - Died Night 1 - Luxy, Mafia Guild Hater
@spf - Died Night 1 - Ash, Town Board Game Entrepeneur
@Kiiruma - Died Day 2 - GGhana & Margaret, Mafia Spotlight-loving Poisoner
@tris - Died Day 2 - Marluna, Town High Roller
@Leafia - Died Day 2 - ElizaThePsycho, Mafia Super Super Liker
@Amelia - Died Day 2 - Someone, Town Real Fakeclaim
@Italy - Died Day 2 - Magnus, Mafia Executant of the EVILGANG
@Luxy - Died Day 2 - benguinedparbecue, Town Child Drowning Sports Fan Peter Singer Enthusiast
@Cape90 - Died Day 2 - iamagummybear, Town Gummy Bear
@Magnus Died Day 2 - Apprentice, Town Master of Miscs
@alexandra - Died Day 2 - Hippopablompoyeetus, Mafia Vox Populi
@Garfooled - Died Day 2 - Jane, Town Champion of Townreads
@LittleLee - Died Day 2 - astand & thepigeonnyc, Mafia Goon
@JakeTheWolfie - Executed Day 2 - catbae, Mafia First Hunter
@Gocj - Died Night 2 - Cape90, Town JOAT of Life and Two Deaths
@jail - Died Night 2 - IcetFeelsPain, Town Visionary Cult Leader
@Porscha - Died Night 2 - Luka, Mafia Unwritten Reviewer
@Sadbi - Died Night 2 - Icibalus, Marluxion, and Prophylaxis, Town Triumvirate of Jank
@Stick Died Night 2 - Kork, Town Socialist Mage
@katze - Died Day 3 - Millium, Town Site Traveler
@Marluxion - Died Day 3 - ash4fun, Town Robotics Club Member
@SilverKeith - Died Day 3 - Arctic, Town Barktic Stoat
@Daeron - Died Day 3 - Wisdom, Town Informing Teacher
@benguinedparbecue - Died Day 3 - Sadbi, Mafia Laurie Strode
@Bionic - Died Day 3 - nutella, Mafia Dogmatic Polymath
@Hehehaha420blazing - Died Day 3 - Apocryphal, Mafia Nyacromancer
@Kelsier - Died Day 3 - Jarek, Town KP Role Magnet
@Manny - Died Day 3 - SirDerpsAlot, Town Best of Intentions
@pandora - Died Day 3 - Silviu200530, Mafia Co-host
@Hippopablompoyeetus - Died Day 3 - Ranta & WindwardAway, Mafia Communist Artist
@Gorta - Died Day 3 - orangeandblack5, Town God-King of the Throne of Boomers
@Brakuren - Died Day 3 - Hazardwaste, Town Adjudicating Teacher
@Ash - Died Day 3 - ???
@Jinrou - Died Day 3 - Zugzwang, Town Stochastic Prognosticator

Day 1

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Day 2

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Day 3

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:01pm

SoD3 Flavor

Here’s the story of a trusty townie
Who was bringing up four very trusty roles
All of them had hearts of green, like their rolecards
Those dear departed souls.

Here’s the story of a wolf named Porscha
Who was busy with wolfchat of her own.
They were some wolves plotting all together
Yet they were all alone

Till the one day when the wolf met these townies.
And she knew that they were much more than a lunch.
'Stead, this group must somehow form a forum,
That’s the way we all became the Fortress bunch.

The Fortress bunch, the Fortress bunch.
That’s the way we became the Fortress bunch.

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:02pm

Hot Takes Results

Take	Percent Agreement
multiple wolves bussed	88%
Mashes should include more Death Events	76%
May is widely townread	72%
it’s super fucked up that arete “arete” lastname REFUSED to let me submit the entirety of the “its omlette time” copypasta and i am morally justified to be angry about this	72%
Super-likes seem more pro Mafia then Pro town	72%
At least one wolf dies tonight	67%
This game will end on or before Day 6	64%
I would trade my entire role for a 1-shot daypeek	64%
atlas and ranta are both v	64%
Poisonous games are better than Mountainous games.	61%
memepizzaking will flip wolf tomorrow	54%
We have More than a few deep wolves	50%
town of salem 1 is a fine enough social deception game	50%
Mashes are the Pinnacle of Werewolf!	48%
Luck is a major component to success in social deduction games.	48%
ESPIONAGE: Mafia Evolved (hidden role game except you can’t talk) is still mafia.	46%
playing mafia (the game) sucks	44%
The source of 6-vote alignment check is non-Town.	44%
The GMs are not suitable for their job and have been lying to us about everything, and Zone is secretly mafia.	42%
4 people will die tonight	40%
Playing any deduction game the best part about them is to not backstab. It’s to play as town and solve the game.	40%
SilverKeith is a wolf	33%
Achromatic is the best player in FAM4	33%
24 Hour cycles is too long for a mash	28%
All of Zone’s mafia games are balanced and well thought through.	26%
Jesters are fun	21%
At Day 3, no less than 90% of all players who shall die by ITA will be Town-aligned.	12%
setups with 1 power role are the best setups	12%
turbos are the most enjoyable format of forum mafia	12%

Prizes will be sent to the winners shortly.

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:02pm

EVENT ANNOUNCEMENT

GUILD PROPAGANDA

Players: Unlimited
Chance of Death: None
Mobile-Friendly: Maybe?
Duration: Submissions close 1 hour before the end of the day
Other Notes: N/A

How to Play:

Privately submit propaganda for your Guild!
If you are not part of a Guild, you may submit propaganda for any guild.
Spec chat will vote overnight on which guild’s propaganda was the best. The winning guild will receive three Cookies at the beginning of the next day.
Guild leaders may select up to three pieces of propaganda to be posted publicly.
All propaganda must be your own work. You may not have another person, or an image generator, create propaganda for you.

How to Join:

Propaganda should be submitted privately in your rolecard.
Each player may submit one piece of propaganda per day.

Reminder: You may not talk or hint about any ongoing events in any non-event chat, public or private, apart from your role PM.

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:02pm

EVENT ANNOUNCEMENT

Meme Contest

Players: Unlimited
Chance of Death: None
Mobile-Friendly: Maybe
Duration: Submissions close approximately 12 hours after the start of the day (may be adjusted depending on host availability). Voting will take place in the second half of the day.
Other Notes: N/A

How to Play:

Submit a meme about the game!

Restrictions:

You may not claim, soft, or imply which meme was yours until after voting has concluded.
Memes from players who die after submission will still be posted for your entertainment, but will not be eligible to win prizes.

How to Join:

Memes should be submitted privately in your rolecard.

Reminder: You may not talk or hint about any ongoing events in any non-event chat, public or private, apart from your role PM.

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

Night 2 Deaths

Creature would have died, but instead his original character, Appelsiini, has fallen into a coma. Creature has now received a new character.

Gocj died! Gocj was…

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text-based

Cape90
Town JOAT of Life and Two Deaths

You are a member of The AGENDA

FAM4 Speedrun death%
Night Action — Key
Choose 1 and spend the corresponding HP:

5: Observe target player, and learn who they visit at Night.

10: You have an additional ITA shot during the next Day.

25: Inspect target player, and learn their exact HP.

40: Block target player.

75: Kill target player.

You may not target the same player on consecutive Nights.

You are Cape90, Town JOAT of Life and Two Deaths. Last FAM, you lived once but managed to die twice. (On the plus side, you arguably won twice as well! Sure beats losing twice, which has also happened, though not to you personally.) This game, you’ve decided to accelerate the process.

You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Gocj’s original role was…

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Cape90
Town JOAT of Life and Two Deaths

You are a member of The AGENDA

FAM4 Speedrun death%
Night Action — Key
Choose 1 and spend the corresponding HP:

5: Observe target player, and learn who they visit at Night.

10: You have an additional ITA shot during the next Day.

25: Inspect target player, and learn their exact HP.

40: Block target player.

75: Kill target player.

You may not target the same player on consecutive Nights.

okay maybe not quite THAT fast
Immediate Day Action
Spend 10 HP to bind yourself to target player until the end of the Day. While you are bound to another player, damage you receive is dealt to the player you’re bound to instead.

You are Cape90, Town JOAT of Life and Two Deaths. Last FAM, you lived once but managed to die twice. (On the plus side, you arguably won twice as well! Sure beats losing twice, which has also happened, though not to you personally.) This game, you’ve decided to accelerate the process.

You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated.

jail died! jail was…

click here for flip

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IcetFeelsPain
Town Visionary Cult Leader

You are a member of The AGENDA.

Undercover Rebel
Passive
While you are alive, the Blue Dragon Neighborhood private chat is open during the Night, and you are a member of it.

Persuade
Night Action
Invite target player to join the Blue Dragon Neighborhood private chat. (They cannot refuse.)

Call to Arms!
Day Action — 2-shot Key
Call the members of the Blue Dragon Neighborhood to arms giving them 99 Unstable Universal Charges, and while members of the Blue Dragon Neighborhood have at least 1 Unstable Universal Charge, their abilities behave as if their Guild has the Advantage (even if they don’t have a Guild) until the end of the next Night. Members of the Blue Dragon Neighborhood are informed when this happens.
(An Unstable Universal Charge can be used to pay any Charge cost, but do not count towards “thresholds”, and are lost at the end of the next Night.)

You are IcetFeelsPain, Town Visionary Cult Leader. As the host of the fourth Last Stand of the Virtuous game, which is currently slated to be their second-to-last stand, you understand that the true heroes of Throne of Lies are not the wildly-more-popular-among-forumers Unseen or Cult factions, but rather the Blue Dragon. You are prepared to share your vision with others, whatever the cost.

You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Porscha died! Porscha was…

Current rolecard

Current text-only rolecard

Luka
Mafia Unwritten Reviewer

You are a member of The AGENDA.

You are a Reviewer. You are “Wrong About Cops & Complexity”.

I, Luka, Believe notblackorwhite is Right About Cops & Complexity
Passive
Your Key actions cost 1 Complexity Charge to use. Actions that inspect your alignment fail, and actions that inspect any of your tags will receive a large number of fake tags as a result instead.

Role Review
Night Action — Multitaskable
Choose “player” or “action”, inspect target unallied player, and learn the tags the player has if you chose “player” or the tags their actions have if you chose “action”. If you learn player or action has 2 or more tags this way, gain 1 Complexity Charge. If a player inspected this way has an inspection action, gain 2 Complexity Charges instead.

Suggest Changes
Night Action
Give target unallied player 1 of the following tags permanently:

Enigmatic

Loud

Hungry

You may only choose each mode once per game. You may only target each player once per game.
(Hungry — The Charge costs of this ability are doubled. If on a player, it affects all abilities.)
(If a player has already claimed or softed something when they become Enigmatic, we’ll only care about substantial things they have not already claimed or softed e.g. if they’ve claimed a kind of action and reveal a small detail or flavor element, we won’t care. Use wisely.)

fragments of poems // the dreams of lost lovers
Immediate Night Action — Key Multitaskable Sealed
Dig up target dead player, and use a role action of theirs that cannot kill or gain you new abilities in any way. Then, that action becomes Sealed. You may only target each player once per game. (You still must pay costs that action has such as Charges. This does not ignore X-shot restrictions. The action you use resolves when it normally does, and isn’t Immediate.)
(Sealed — This ability cannot be interacted with while the player who owns it is dead.)

You are Luka, Unwritten Reviewer. Hi Luka, it’s notblackorwhite here. I know our argument about cops and complexity trailed off, but I decided to finish it in a way where I can get the last word. We may disagree on certain things, but you’re a Reviewer so you must have correct opinions on at least some things! I decided to give you a chance here to show off your Reviewing skills.

You win if no more threats to the Mafia exist or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Original rolecard

Luka
Mafia Unwritten Reviewer

You are a member of The AGENDA.

You are a Reviewer. You are “Wrong About Cops & Complexity”. You are Unwritten.

I, Luka, Believe notblackorwhite is Right About Cops & Complexity
Passive
Your Key actions cost 1 Complexity Charge to use. Actions that inspect your alignment fail, and actions that inspect any of your tags will receive a large number of fake tags as a result instead.

Role Review
Night Action — Multitaskable
Choose “player” or “action”, inspect target unallied player, and learn the tags the player has if you chose “player” or the tags their actions have if you chose “action”. If you learn player or action has 2 or more tags this way, gain 1 Complexity Charge. If a player inspected this way has an inspection action, gain 2 Complexity Charges instead.

Suggest Changes
Night Action
Give target unallied player 1 of the following tags permanently:

Enigmatic

Loud

Hungry

You may only choose each mode once per game. You may only target each player once per game.
(Hungry — The Charge costs of this ability are doubled. If on a player, it affects all abilities.)
(If a player has already claimed or softed something when they become Enigmatic, we’ll only care about substantial things they have not already claimed or softed e.g. if they’ve claimed a kind of action and reveal a small detail or flavor element, we won’t care. Use wisely.)

You are Luka, Unwritten Reviewer. Hi Luka, it’s notblackorwhite here. I know our argument about cops and complexity trailed off, but I decided to finish it in a way where I can get the last word. We may disagree on certain things, but you’re a Reviewer so you must have correct opinions on at least some things! I decided to give you a chance here to show off your Reviewing skills.

You win if no more threats to the Mafia exist or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Sadbi died! Sadbi was…

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Icibalus, Marluxion, & Prophylaxis
Town Triumvirate of Jank

You are a member of The Throne of Boomers.

You are White, Black, Green, and a “Legendary Planeswalker — Icibalus Marluxion Prophylaxis”. (These are player tags with no implicit mechanical effect.)

You begin the game with 5 Loyalty ~~Counters~~ Charges.

State-Based Actions
Passive — Key
If you ever have 0 Loyalty Charges, you die.

Planeswalkers Don’t Go Into the Red Zone
Passive
You have 0 ITA shots, a base ITA damage of 0, and ignore effects from other players that modify your ITA shots or damage.

Icibalus of Precinct One
Immediate Day Action
Gain 2 Loyalty Charges and create two 1/1 white Human creature tokens with “↷: This creature deals damage equal to twice its power to target tapped player.” (Each Human grants you an ITA shot that deals 2 damage, and can only be fired at players who have fired an ITA shot during the same Day. Use these like a normal ITA shot. This doesn’t create NPCs, and Humans are just a flavorful way to describe your shots in this role.)

Archfiend of Prophylaxis
Immediate Day Action
Spend 4 Loyalty Charges to gain 4 Oil Charges and have a Human you control become a black Phryexian Demon with flying, base power and toughness 6/6, and you gain “You cannot gain Oil Charges. At the beginning of each Day, lose 1 Oil Charge. If you have 0 Oil Charges, you die.” if you don’t already have it. (The Demon has the same ITA shot action as Humans do except it’s Overwhelming and deals 12 damage. Discuss with hosts to create a secret signal to signify which ITA shot should use the Demon. If you don’t use a signal, your last shot will be the Demon. The Demon still can only shoot players have shot at least once that Day.)

Yargle and Marltani
Immediate Day Action
Spend 6 Loyalty Charges and sacrifice a Human to have creatures you control become black green Frog Spirit Elementals with base power and toughness 18/6 until you kill a player with an ITA shot or until the end of the Day. (They still have the ITA shot action, but now deal 36 damage. The Demon keeps Overwhelming. At EoD or when you kill a player, they return to being Humans or Demons, whatever they were before. You can still only shoot players who have shot at least once that Day.)

You are Icibalus, Marluxion, and Prophylaxis, Town Triumvirate of Jank. While you three haven’t been as active lately, we wanted to acknowledge the contributions you’ve all collectively made to the site over the years whether it be as a player, a host, a moderator, or a reviewer. Given how diverse your talents are, we made this role based on the one thing you all have in common: Magic: the Gathering.

You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Stick died! Stick was…

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Kork
Town Socialist Mage

You are not a member of a Guild.

You are a Socialist.

As a Socialist, you have access to the following:

The Conquest of Bread
Passive
At the beginning of each Night while the source of this is alive, Socialists (including you) must choose a target for each of the following actions:

Inspect target player, and learn how healthy they are (Healthy, Wounded, Bloodied).

Deal 10 damage to target player.

Give 10 Armor Plates to target player. (An Armor Plate negates 1 damage, and is then destroyed. It can be thought of like temporary HP.)

Each action will be used that Night targeting the most chosen player for it (ties are randed), and carried by a randomly chosen Socialist who chose the targeted player for that action. (Please note this is not a role ability of yours.)

Why do I always rand kill power… FIREBALL!
Immediate Day Action — 2-shot Key
Kill target player. You may only submit this in the second half of the Day. You may not use this Day 1.

You are Kork, Town Socialist Mage. You have an uncanny luck at randing killpower in majority of games you play to an insane amount. You play the game more like a mech point from your TOS experience and have been enjoying a lot of DnD and L4D2 recently so we decided to give you the best spell in 5e FIREBALL! Have fun and remember there isn’t guilt in this game .

You win when the Mafia and all other threats to the Town have been eliminated.

A player was successfully anti-claimed during the Night!

Living players

Achromatic
an_gorta_slanktai
Apocryphal
Ari
Artemis
Ash
ash4fun
Ashlyn
Atlas
Baudib1
beancat
benguinedparbecue
Bionic
BradLand
Brakuren
bystander
carbonated
CarrotyReaper
ChaosNinjaGaming
crazynuto
Creature
Daeron
Dum
dyachei
ElizaThePsycho
Ephemera
Zone_Q11
Frostwolf103
gori
Gorta
Hallia
Hazardwaste
Hehehaha420blazing
Hippopablompoyeetus
Jane
Jarek
Jinrou
Kanave
katze
Kelsier
Kork
Lucid_Daydream
Manny
Marluna
Marluxion
May
Memekingpizza
Meuh
Millium
neil_the_eel
nutella
pandora
Ranta
Selkie
SilverKeith
SirDerpsAlot
Someone
Wazza
WindwardAway
Yawn
Zugzwang

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

Day 3 has started and will end in 24 hours at 2024-06-08T21:00:00Z

The window for day actions will begin at 2024-06-07T22:00:00Z and end at 2024-06-08T20:00:00Z

ITA Window 1 will begin 2024-06-08T01:00:00Z

@FAM4Players

FAMHost · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

ElizaThePsycho · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

first

ash4fun · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

Didn’t have time for much last night, but I organized my thoughts on the playerlist into an actual readslist that isn’t rushed. Hopefully that means I wont null names I just forgot. Names within tiers are sorted alphabetically.

ash4fun - rolepeeked T

firinn (r. Zone_Q11) - never W
Gocj
Jane
katze
May

Achromatic - D1 cw + katze
Artemis
Atlas
beancat
Hallia
Jinrou - possibly 3p
Manny
Meuh
Sadbi
SirDerpsAlot - for kii shot, possibly 3p

an_gorta_slanktai
Ari
Ash - I think? they feel the same as in PH, where I incorrectly scumread them
benguinedparbecue - jane
BradLand - reluctantly
Brakuren
Creature
dyachei -
Ephemera
Hehehaha420blazing
jail
Millium
neil_the_eel
nutella
Stick
SilverKeith
Wazza
WindwardAway - aligned with wazza
Yawn

bystander
carbonated
CarrotyReaper
ChaosNinjaGaming
Daeron
Dum
Gorta
Hazardwaste
Kanave
Kelsier
Kork
Marluxion
Porscha
Someone

Apocryphal
Ashlyn
Baudib1
crazynuto
Frostwolf103
Hippopablompoyeetus
Jarek
Marluna
Lucid_Daydream
Ranta
Zugzwang

Bionic
ElizaThePsycho
gori
Selkie

Memekingpizza - on meta
pandora

I’m gonna try and iso some of the people in the grey tier; those are the names I have never made any sort of read on.

Later… I did some of my previous nulls, and have updated the list. Specifics are included in the next post.

ElizaThePsycho · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

HUH?

Zugzwang · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA rip

Jane · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

@Achromatic you suck for telling me not Porscha yesterday lmao

ash4fun · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

Ari’s iso

There’s a ton of [name] [town/mafia] posts, which doesn’t help. However, I do think this is town for a couple reasons:

shot on italy
asking if their role can un-immune Jake
calling leafia out for chainsawing May over kiiruma

Beancat’s ISO

idk if there’s any one thing which makes them certainly town, but they read like an obvious villager to me. Also they shot true (alexandra).

Side note, I keep finding people pointing out really bad posts by ashlyn

Mueh’s ISO

They seem like a strong player, so I’m hesitant to clear them, but their track record for reads/shot is extremely good based on flips and my own reads

Eliza’s ISO

There’s a lot of posts, but I don’t think a single one of them is a thought-out reason for TR or SR-ing someone. They shot Italy (twice) saying they were openwolfing, but they seem to generally just be coasting.

Pandora’s ISO

Very short iso, only makes a couple of reads, mostly on the towniest players in the game and brad. Very milquetoast posting, bare minimum-style.

Jarek · June 7, 2024, 9:04pm

Gocj got strongmanned they should not have died

nutella · June 7, 2024, 9:05pm

gocj sabi and stick noooooooo

also i shot jail sowwy it was wrong

Jarek · June 7, 2024, 9:05pm

Or I got roleblocked pick your poison

either way I’m not vengeing anyone today so you can kill me for free

katze · June 7, 2024, 9:05pm

bleh

carbonated · June 7, 2024, 9:05pm

GOOD MORNING MAFIA