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I’m taking you to endgame, Jarek.

…Wait, this isn’t EiMM anymore. Nvm.

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i’ve been busy
but this is a decent summary

Yawns Going to call it a night now, so good night everyone. Sorry I haven’t been as active as I usuallly am. TLRL has been keeping me busy. :sleepingleafeon:

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:sleepingleafeon:

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anywho
i doubt i have any reason to start another argument at this point
its rather hard to do things without others around, and i’ve given my readlists and thoughts various times
i’ve mostly given up on trying to bicker with neon, for the threadhealth and my sanity

I’m thinking Jarek and Memes could be aligned.
Since the former’s been townreading the latter, and while the latter’s casted a few votes at the former none of them have stuck, and they aren’t really interacting with each other.

Keep in mind, Jarek disagreed with the Hail execution but didn’t vote or suggest other wagons, despite being online at EOD. This post was their justification, which doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

Jarek’s post dodges, rather than accepts, the responsibility of not voting at EOD. Jarek doesn’t really suggest any specific targets for the next day either, and just goes “one of these people should’ve died yesterday: I don’t care who, just one of these four.” This is NOT a towny mindset, imo.

It’s nice having someone I hard TR in the thread having thoughts, at the very least. If you’re mafia, you’re doing a great job of it.

While we’re at it, here’s my readlist, from most to least town:

  • Leafia - I’ve played one (1) game with them as mafia and am convinced I am the Metaread God, atop my high, shining Metaread Tower, and you can also gain my trust very easily and quickly by liking my posts. And her opinions are thorough and good. Sure, if she and I survive later into the game, I might reconsider it, but I doubt that’ll be the case given my track record.

  • Magnus - Similarly (but even less grounded in reality), I’ve played a single game with Magnus as town and I’m still up in my tower. Most of the things I’ve seen from them don’t seem particularly scummy - if they flip maf, I’d want to look in to this initial post, because it feels rule of 3 to me, Neon, because the wording of this message feels artificial, and whatever’s going on here, and maybe more, I got bored partway through his ISO and should probably move on.

– Neutral Zone –

  • Jaiden - Neutral-ish read; her lack of posts throughout D1 obviously make it a bit hard to read her, since there’s no new information that’s come up since any of them, but I don’t SR her for the early nonsense, as I’ve been in a game with Jaiden before. I would love to be an endgame candidate because I love surviving online on the internet.

  • Phraze - No content, no read. Her SK and Neon votes probably need a flip to be useful, given Phraze’s lack of interaction with the rest of the thread.

  • May - Overall neutral read - they claimed to be against the EoD vote, but didn’t push strongly against it, similar to how he kept flip-flopping on the Zorvo vote - given these parallels in behavior, probably not W/W with Zorvo, especially given the TMI Zorvo appeared to have just as she entered the game. Said let’s go Mets and then the Mets did not go. (We lost 7-1 to the Nats. We lost the SERIES to the Nats. Why. So cringe)

  • Lemonfairy - Not helped along by the fact that she and Sillykitty occupy the exact same space in my mind, meaning that my reads on the two get jumbled up. Keeping a vote on the Magnus vanity wagon by the end of the day was odd, but she wasn’t around for EoD anyway. Really, without an actual vote placed, I don’t feel like I stand a chance of having actual confidence in a read of her.

  • Sillykitty - Not helped along by the fact that it and Lemonfairy occupy the exact same space in my mind. I’m interested in the “bangers” that will be “dropped” tomorrow. I agree with its opinion on the Zorvo pushes - they’re not based in reality - and I think reading Zorvo W here is fairly natural in its situation. That’s all I’ve got.

  • Memes - I genuinely dunno, I have quite the scrambled read on him. Very brief scan gives me almost W/W with Neon vibes, though that’s a major “looking into the crystal ball and Knowing” read, without the unfounded confidence I usually tend to have in those. I’d want to see how he slots into various potential scumteams once we get some more flips.

  • Atlas - Tires me to read. Soul/crystal ball says potentially scummy. That’s what you’re all getting. Same zone as Memes, want flips to analyze

  • Neon - Not reading all that, let alone analyzing it. The crystal ball in my mind says she could be scum, and at the crystal ball stage this one will stay, until we get more flips. May Brokenrecordgaming.

– Scumread Zone –

  • Jarek - I get the feeling that Jarek’s just like this, honestly. I don’t really want to waste a vote here at the moment, as I don’t think the flip would be that informative, and I don’t have the energy to form a read beyond that and what I’ve already said - a few off messages that don’t seem to be coming from a town perspective, but sometimes townies just do that. If town, probably being treated as a “designated misvote” by the mafia right now, so I’d look for people pushing but not super committing to the vote.

  • Zorvo - As said earlier, I keep flip-flopping on this one, but there’s a few things that stand out to me about his behavior this game. He initially townread me upon my entry into the thread, but then later started considering worlds where I was wolf (and I hate when people townread me, I got pocketed by a wolf for the entire game during Morbtainado just because they started a train on me D1, though I only survived two day phases anyway, so that’s not saying much). He bussed super hard in the Valorant game, but I don’t think that’s necessarily indicative of being W/W with Kitty. Honestly, I just want to know how he flips. I’m too invested in it. It throws off the objectivity of my reads.

  • O kazo - Probably my strongest scumread at the moment, though my vote on him is just as much justified by the amount of equity generated here as it is by that read. What stands out especially to me is his weird inconsistencies on who he sided with in the whole SK/Zorvo thing, the late vote on Hail, and his unusual focus on Jarek, though I can’t tell whether the later is bussing or just seeing Jarek as an easy misvote.

It’s so nice to be in a game where I can just… read every player. The other one I’m playing at the moment was 27 players, which is so much, though it’s been narrowed down by now.

Yeah, I think mafia are on Jarek no matter alignment, and Memes is definitely one of the Jarek voters of all time. Potential connection.

im glad everyone got a paragraph and i got the crystal ball speaking to me

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I am the best FM player in the world of course people would want to vote me

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Listen, it just knows. You really can’t beat that.

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You have a 0:1 winrate ratio, of course we’d want to axe you.

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It’s true that I’ve lost every single game I have ever participated in.

Well not the BOTC ones but those don’t count.

these are just undescribed meta reads based off a few posts
neutral zone is essentially a few things they did and nothing else

this reads as someone scumreading zorvo, when jarek’s made at least half decent points almost all game, with no evidence to support the scumread

this feels less like a read and more of zorvo townreading you which makes you think he’s scummy

there’s some things of note here
the sk/zorvo thing is insanely undescriptive, given the amount of sk/zorvo things all game
hail and jarek are to be expected by someone barely paying attention

overall
i don’t feel like this says too much, to be honest
nulls are full of nothingness and the townreads and scumreads are barely described

Jarek, what colour is your rolecard?

Just for this I will now soft a PR.

I’m
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Okay

VOTE: Jarek