Forum Avalon - Mission 4

I’m the mech god

we need to win M2 or M3 to win are you confident we can win M3

M4 is a free mission for good but M5 is a free mission for spies

I didnt think that far ahead.

But assuming that i trust Kiiruma and hippo from yesterday.

It would be a minimum of 1 between Marluna/Chillde

Why are m4 and m5 free?

M4 needs 2 fails to fail and I believe in us as a town to be able to pick a team with at least 4 good players

M5 needs 5/6 good players picked and I am less confident that we can succeed that

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also in the large games where I HAVE seen good win M5 it leads to Merlin being an around 50/50 shot for Evils and I’d rather have the win than the 50/50

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@Hippopablompoyeetus @Kiiruma I’m considering Hippo / Kii / Me / Jarek cus I do think Jarek is good and this was a thought I had as well but I was too lazy to actually do it

if you dont trust jarek or want someone other than jarek lmk

if you dont want me that’s also ok but im not sure who else I would pick other than maybe childe and pray they did read op

the informed spy team is not me / jarek / chomps which would mean an informed spy did accept the mission

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Fuck this game hurts my head

this is even weirder if Jarek is good it means 2 informed spies accepted the mission

@Chomps are you obe

wait why did frost approve that

Are you saying I’m toblerone

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We know chomps is oberon they softed it a bunch

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I can make reasonable assumptions that certain players aren’t certain things but I have no such consolation regarding the oberon player

@Jarek you have hammer what would your team be

Hmmm…

The easy cop-out answer is myself and everyone in N1, it selfishly grants me the knowledge that if the prop is failed it was one of them. The fun answer is trying to play FM and figure out some evils and exclude them.

I’d say myself is always a guarantee. From there it really depends on how I feel about these current votes and the future votes for other propositions.

Why did frostwolf reject and then accept? Why did everyone who was in that same proposal reject it? Why are marluna leafia and hazard acting like yes-people and accepting everything? It’s possible that evils simply don’t want to be suspected in this proposition and have rejected it to get a better deal. Maybe one of them in the prop is evil and thinks marluna is the oberon (who would muddy things, and would be bad if marluna wasn’t).

I can’t say it’s all speculation, but Myself, Leafia Hazard & Icet, that would be my wild proposition. The two players (and yourself, to be fair) have decent chance to be wolves but most people rejected that proposition. Putting these two in would allow me to see why these two accepted. Marluna is exempt because they’re in it - it’s obvious why they did. And what do I mean by why? Well, there’s a non-zero chance my proposition could possibly fail but I would know it would fall within you or those two. If it fails, then you would cop-check them (or me) and we’d have a wolf, or a wolf down to a 50/50 (based on if you trust the cop-checker).

I’m unable to have you cop check yourself, so until the ability is used and information gained from it I can’t say for sure if you’ll use it as a goodie or a baddie. We’ll have to see.

It’s also possible the proposition was pure and as such evils (obviously) voted reject to avoid it. If I believe that, and I get hammer, I’m making that exact same proposition even if I’m not in it to see who definitely doesn’t want it. Those players are likely the wolves.

no i didn’t